I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” for some pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” and it is about an inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand wanting a bit more clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think the bike is high enough to pedal through anything these bikes can pedal through. I’m still getting used to the Susie as a mountain bike really. Chunky climbs are tough for me because if I get off the seat at all, instant loss of traction. Pedal strikes hasn’t been an issue at all though.
On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:58:06 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > Fair point(s). As you can imagine, the full suspension bike has a pretty > high bb, though not as high as current comparable bikes. I rarely > experienced pedal strokes even pedaling through stuff that at my age I > probably should not be doing!:) > I just looked at available solutions & thought it might be beneficial to > shorten the cranks on the Gus to approximate the clearance I enjoyed on the > suspension bike. To do so would require a 550mm crank arm. > To be honest, I had one particular & disconcerting pedal strike riding the > Clem that really got my attention. This was a very familiar sweeping turn > but off camber section that I always pedal through. The pedal dug into the > uphill side of the bank & I nearly crashed. It was just so unexpected. I’ve > accepted the notion that I may have to ride a bit slower & less aggressive > than I am used to. But to the degree that I can minimize these things with > the right choice now seems smart. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 10, 2023, at 8:01 AM, Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I understand your intent to avoid crank or pedal contact, but personally I > wouldn’t base my crank length on the potential for pedal strikes on rocks > and roots. In this case, I would fall into the camp of being conscious of > the terrain, refining your technique, and being mindful of your own > personal skill level. If you’re getting lots of strikes with say, a 170mm > or 165mm crank, I wouldn’t be confident that going even shorter than that > is going to necessarily solve your issue. > > On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:45 AM, Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail bike to the Gus. > I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with 173mm cranks and have been > reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, I really enjoy the > trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize the Gus has a slightly > higher BB than the Clem & the Gus is 29 x 2.6. So yes, I am trying to be > mitigate possible problems. I like the Silver crank on the Clem but I will > likely use a 165mm Crank on the Gus. But, I am watching with keen interest > the increasing availability of even shorter cranks. > And yes, I know technique comes into play here, and I am looking forward > to refining mine. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 10, 2023, at 12:01 AM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of >> Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm >> cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been >> researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits >> other than pedal clearance. >> >> > Have you tried a longer crank, or are you just building yours up for the > first time and assuming you'll want more clearance? (Based perhaps on > experience with other rivendell models.) My single conplaint about my > Susie is that the botgom bracket is too high. Its not at all like my Clem > or my other most-ridden mountain bikes from other companies, that are all > much lower.. I've probably learned to adjust my pedaling technique from > previous experience, and my huge 2.8 tires probably have something to do > with it too but, in case you haven't done so, you should try it with > normal/long* cranks to see if it is really an issue. (*mine are 175) > > On topic - it is definitely sad to see these go. Grant orginally said > that it might only be the first batch that was fillet brazed, but didn't > suggest that the models would just "disappear." Seems a shame to throw in > the towel and not keep them going in some form, even if they're just > tigged. That's how the Charlie Gallop - with similar top tube curve - > will be built, right? With the Clem(entine) moving further away from its > original mountain/hill bike concept, and with the Hunquapillar long gone, > this just feels like a slot that needs filled to me. > > >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 >> more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another >> run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm >> going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! >> >> >> Joe Bernard >> >> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over >>> fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s >>> sorta between the Susie & Gus. >>> >>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: >>> >>>> If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that >>>> the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just >>>> arrived, will be it for that those models being made. 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