Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you!
That one for sale is nice, but $3900 seems a bit crazy. I’d sell my Susie for that and it’s a nicer build! On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:22:54 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > I meant to say that I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" > frameset in RBW blue and turn around and sell my 59cm lime olive frameset. > > Kim Hetzel > Yelm, WA. > On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote: > >> Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it. >> >> Kim Hetzel >> Yelm, WA. >> >> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote: >> >>> Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though >>> it's a fully built bike. >>> >>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html >>> >>> >>> --Joyce >>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: >>> >>>> Both. I wanted to use a Chocomoose handlebar set-up on the XL Susie and >>>> it felt too stretched out for me when I was checking different options for >>>> the build that never happened. A 88 PBH put me high and low for these two >>>> sizes. Ended up with a few extra stem/bar combinations. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 17:22:41 UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between sizes? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M <mott...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they >>>>> certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm >>>>> effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They >>>>> used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top >>>>> tube on the 56cm and smaller frames. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:30:47 UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed >>>>>> on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! >>>>>> I’m >>>>>> glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive Susie Longbolt frameset for sale >>>>>>> that I'm most likely posting later in the week. I picked up a 56cm >>>>>>> Susie >>>>>>> from the most recent Rivendell offering of the Hillibikes and need to >>>>>>> pass >>>>>>> the bigger one on. Price is $1900 plus shipping. New never ridden. >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 12:56:29 UTC-8 JW wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it >>>>>>>> sounds like they'll be discontinued all together. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 r.ha...@live.com >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike >>>>>>>>> which was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> what I really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and >>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>> do) was a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I >>>>>>>>> realized >>>>>>>>> the Gus not really step through but its okay, I still enjoy it. Also, >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> thought all Gus/Susie are filet brazed, are they not? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>> steve...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet >>>>>>>>>> brazed models? Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a Homer, >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> more and more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the >>>>>>>>>> Platypus are >>>>>>>>>> looking attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my >>>>>>>>>> hard >>>>>>>>>> tail carbon fiber MTB that I've decided to part ways with. >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:32:17 PM UTC-5 r.ha...@live.com >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> First time Riv owner here sharing pics of my Gus build. I had >>>>>>>>>>> lots of inspiration from the Blue Lug website >>>>>>>>>>> <https://bluelug.com/contents/rivendell/gus-boots.php>. I have >>>>>>>>>>> only rode it a few miles though and still trying to get the squeal >>>>>>>>>>> out of >>>>>>>>>>> the brakes. So far so fun! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nWnCevTy8pV3AKNZ7 >>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3291.JPG] >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:59:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Joe "I want one" Bernard >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>>> rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my >>>>>>>>>>>>> first good look at this rig in person. The bb is much higher than >>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> anticipated - within 1/2 centimeter of my full suspension MTB >>>>>>>>>>>>> (for sale:)). >>>>>>>>>>>>> This beast should be a hoot. >>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Ryan Frahm <fra...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” >>>>>>>>>>>>> for some pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” >>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> about an inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand >>>>>>>>>>>>> wanting a >>>>>>>>>>>>> bit more clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think the bike >>>>>>>>>>>>> is high >>>>>>>>>>>>> enough to pedal through anything these bikes can pedal through. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m still >>>>>>>>>>>>> getting used to the Susie as a mountain bike really. Chunky >>>>>>>>>>>>> climbs are >>>>>>>>>>>>> tough for me because if I get off the seat at all, instant loss >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> traction. Pedal strikes hasn’t been an issue at all though. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:58:06 AM UTC-8 >>>>>>>>>>>>> rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fair point(s). As you can imagine, the full suspension bike >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a pretty high bb, though not as high as current comparable >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bikes. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rarely experienced pedal strokes even pedaling through stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that at my age >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I probably should not be doing!:) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just looked at available solutions & thought it might be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial to shorten the cranks on the Gus to approximate the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearance I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyed on the suspension bike. To do so would require a 550mm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crank arm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be honest, I had one particular & disconcerting pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> strike riding the Clem that really got my attention. This was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar sweeping turn but off camber section that I always >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedal through. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The pedal dug into the uphill side of the bank & I nearly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crashed. It was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just so unexpected. I’ve accepted the notion that I may have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slower & less aggressive than I am used to. But to the degree >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimize these things with the right choice now seems smart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 8:01 AM, Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your intent to avoid crank or pedal contact, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally I wouldn’t base my crank length on the potential for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> strikes on rocks and roots. In this case, I would fall into the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> camp of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being conscious of the terrain, refining your technique, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being mindful >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of your own personal skill level. If you’re getting lots of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> strikes with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> say, a 170mm or 165mm crank, I wouldn’t be confident that going >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shorter than that is going to necessarily solve your issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 7:45 AM, Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike to the Gus. I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with 173mm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cranks and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy the trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gus has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slightly higher BB than the Clem & the Gus is 29 x 2.6. So yes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be mitigate possible problems. I like the Silver crank on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clem but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will likely use a 165mm Crank on the Gus. But, I am watching >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with keen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest the increasing availability of even shorter cranks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And yes, I know technique comes into play here, and I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to refining mine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 12:01 AM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject of Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with shorter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 165mm cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rough trails? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve been researching available cranks and finding interesting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefits other than pedal clearance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried a longer crank, or are you just building yours >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up for the first time and assuming you'll want more clearance? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Based >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps on experience with other rivendell models.) My single >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conplaint >>>>>>>>>>>>>> about my Susie is that the botgom bracket is too high. Its not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Clem or my other most-ridden mountain bikes from other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> companies, that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are all much lower.. I've probably learned to adjust my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedaling >>>>>>>>>>>>>> technique from previous experience, and my huge 2.8 tires >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to do with it too but, in case you haven't done so, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> try it with normal/long* cranks to see if it is really an issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (*mine are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 175) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On topic - it is definitely sad to see these go. Grant >>>>>>>>>>>>>> orginally said that it might only be the first batch that was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fillet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brazed, but didn't suggest that the models would just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "disappear." Seems a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shame to throw in the towel and not keep them going in some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> form, even if >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're just tigged. That's how the Charlie Gallop - with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar top tube >>>>>>>>>>>>>> curve - will be built, right? With the Clem(entine) moving >>>>>>>>>>>>>> further away >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from its original mountain/hill bike concept, and with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hunquapillar >>>>>>>>>>>>>> long gone, this just feels like a slot that needs filled to me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already $250 more than the lugged frames and were going to go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> higher if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they did another run. These are great frames, if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money/opportunity ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lines up for me I'm going to grab a Gus. If you want one now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cash, buy it! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-8 Luke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hendrickson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> framesets over fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bike Riv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes that’s sorta between the Susie & Gus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentions that the last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Susie shipment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that just arrived, will be it for that those models being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made. 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