…and as of 1:30pm the Sergio Green in 54cm is the first to sell out.

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 12:36:01 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> The Malocchio looks interesting --- low BB and a nice headset. But it's 
> not any cheaper than a Roadini (though it might very well be lighter!).
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 12:17 PM Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Brenton — Other modern production frames to consider: Crust Lightning 
>> Bolt and Molocchio? 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:11:23 PM UTC-4 exliontamer wrote:
>>
>>> Just going to throw this out there about the RB-1. Here's the actual 
>>> tubing spec and not what was listed in the literature. All of the 59cm & up 
>>> used the heaviest tubes in this set btw. My 62cm weighed in at 7.8 lbs for 
>>> the f/f/hs
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20160802144339/http://johndogfood.com/john/1993_DLR/reduced-1600/Bridgestone_Dealer_1993_10.jpg
>>> I know smaller frames are a little different (smaller frames are 
>>> generally lighter) , and I know it's blaspheme to some people, but they're 
>>> not all that. I love the way they ride but I don't think they deserve the 
>>> holy grail cult status they're given. They're overbuilt for some people 
>>> (not me) and the tire clearance is not typically great. I take calipers out 
>>> and I can honestly tell you that my '93 would not clear a true 30. 
>>> There's a lot to be said with getting what your heart is set on though & 
>>> confirmation bias is a powerful thing. A Gunnar or Waterford will be a much 
>>> better choice if you're looking for zip & clearance. Also the Roadini is an 
>>> amazingly designed bike. I've talked to Riv about it and they cut down the 
>>> tubes to the lightest butting possible so the 57cm & 54cm (not sure what 
>>> you're size is) will be noticeably lighter than the 61 frame. I have no 
>>> personal experience with the Roadini but my wife got the 50cm & loves it 
>>> more than her old (lightweight) Colnago & Battaglin. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 11:44:46 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Erik,
>>>>
>>>> See if you can’t find a Gunnar Sport (or Waterford)
>>>>
>>>> I love mine and with VO calipers (which are excellent) it clears 35mm.  
>>>> I run the 32mm RH slicks. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:48 AM Brian Cunningham <
>>>> thisisbria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As someone who’s bought four Rivs over the last 14 years and has never 
>>>>> bought one new (sorry, Grant! I still buy plenty of parts and accessories 
>>>>> from the site!), waiting and letting someone else do the depreciating is 
>>>>> fine as long as you’re happy with your current stable. I acquired my 
>>>>> complete, virtually new Roadini, for only a few hundred dollars more than 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> would pay for the frame & fork to be shipped to me & inclusive of sales 
>>>>> tax…
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, I am super enamored with the Roadini!
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> Muddying the waters in Glendale, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 8:40:05 AM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's so much subjectivity here. I love hearing different 
>>>>>> experiences and opinions. My plan is to hold out and see if some of the 
>>>>>> underwhelmed folks offer up their Roadini's for sale. In the meantime 
>>>>>> I'll 
>>>>>> be cruising Craigslist and the like for a 58ish Bridgestone RB, or 
>>>>>> similar, 
>>>>>> that I can try out and see if I don't just stick with Sam H 100% of the 
>>>>>> time like I have been for 2 years. 
>>>>>>
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