Hahahaha, teens is cold. Just some New England humor there. For those temps on my commute, lobsters are definitely where it's at. The Pearl Izumi newest version is not so great. I have the older, bulkier ones and they are warmer and better. Try Craft or my favorite budget lobster <https://www.ebay.com/itm/203227893253?hash=item2f51538e05:g:hoAAAOSwGrhf453W&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4ARfF5%2BT2FnTYDfrbR%2FQAZhwqb%2B27pOHA%2By2wN8GNicw2rFvbtq%2B7Sr%2BwqYTDGMdOFjY117jvv6W8zCN2HGN5S2n77YlM2u5rqVS39s7LFLZ%2Bf7HCOi%2FnbFJI6Kird45G2x7jHrlMxQnAUNRK54oyh7O6Be1EAldIlpQfK9xUR1F7GFOcxfTEt%2Baoci0iDEQMhZYGg7Hh4xz1Ko40UlcMBJwBZyafOqQjAAW0xMTC8CoUwO6iC1287v47WJM6V94dsZqKjXWIRY2p%2FIlFIVcXCfmSqM%2FpggknLckF1c0WLTI%7Ctkp%3ABFBMtMz629ti>. I buy these in multiples because my children lose them, riding to school.
I had my mother knit me a lightweight pair of wool mitts - really close fitting - that I wear under overmitts when it's colder / wetter. I think you should work with your OR overmitts and try various lighter weight innards. I bought a set of military surplus wool gloves that are a great liner for slightly warmer temps (that's my 20-25F setup). You basically want a lot of dead air space without bulk filling up that space. So either synthetic lightweight insulation or a light liner and that air in your overmitt is your insulation. Will near Boston, having recently discovered that the seatpost on his winter commuter is totally frozen in place.... On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 5:37:27 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com wrote: > Should have added: the chopper/garbage-hauler mittens worked very well on > bikes with downtube shifters and decently well on a fatbike with trigger > shifters. I can imagine having difficulty with brifters. > > -- > Bob Cook > > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 3:27:57 PM UTC-6 Bob wrote: > >> Patrick, >> >> I too have tried the lobster-claw gloves and found them disappointing. >> Sure, there was some protection across the back from wind, but I could feel >> cold brake levers through the palm side. I put up with it for a few years, >> then used Bar Mitts, which were warm enough for me but unwieldy, especially >> on drop bars. I finally settled on these: >> http://www.ponderosacyclery.com/store/garbagechopper-mitt >> >> They are much warmer than one might think. A wool liner glove would make >> them even warmer. Not that my fingers still don't get cold in them below, >> say, 15°F, but they are roomy and allow for warming movement. Also, the >> elastic wrist band tucks nicely into jacket sleeves and is long enough not >> to slide out easily. >> >> -- >> Bob Cook >> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 2:15:59 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm in >>> very cold temperatures (for me, very cold means in the teens F). My fingers >>> are very sensitive to the cold. I've bought 2 or 3 pairs of PI Lobster >>> gloves but I've been disappointed in the fit and the warmth. >>> >>> I've used Outdoor Research heavy nylon mitten sheaths with thick boiled >>> wool mittens underneath, and those were very warm indeed, but very awkward >>> to ride in, even on a fixed gear where you have to handle only the brake >>> levers. >>> >>> Varusteleka currently has a number of mil surplus mittens with separate >>> thumb, separate thumb and trigger finger, and separate thumb and first 2 >>> fingers. The whole point of mittens is to bundle the fingers together in >>> one compartment for mutual warmth, so each added finger compartment >>> sacrifices warmth. >>> >>> Does anyone have thoughts on a glove or a mitten or a system that gives >>> the best mix of warmth and dexterity? And perhaps some particular gloves or >>> mittens that fit the bill? >>> >>> Right now, I've got hugely oversized 5-finger gloves under which I can >>> wear wool knit gloves, under which in turn I can wear silk liners, but this >>> sort of layer system is cumbersome to put on and take off. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>> services. >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> *When thou didst not, savage,* >>> >>> *Know thine own meaning, but wouldst gabble like* >>> >>> *A thing most brutish, I endowed thy purposes* >>> >>> *With words that made them known.* >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/995e81ec-7b69-4e49-990c-3fb69ce950c0n%40googlegroups.com.
