After some wear, brake pads need to be re-toed in, because they will wear flat to the rim surface. I suspect that will solve your problems.
Will On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:04 AM Kim H. <krhet...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would enjoy hearing the feedback from those folks, who have used > Yokozuna brake pads verses Salmon Koolstop pads. Are they any better ? or ? > > Kim Hetzel. > > On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:45:43 AM UTC-7 Julian Westerhout wrote: > >> Bill, >> >> Salmon Koolstop pads stop well, but can be noisy, especially if they hit >> the rim flat or slightly toed out. It is possible/probable that after 5 >> months the pads have worn enough to change the way they hit the rim, and >> need to be adjusted a bit to be slightly toe-in. >> >> Julia Westerhout >> Bloomington, IL >> >> On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote: >> >>> The brakes are cantilever with salmon pads. I assume that the are >>> properly mounted. The squawking began after about five months of riding. In >>> the beginning there was no noise. >>> >>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:50:09 PM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> That noise is typical of a he salmon pads that ship on Paul brakes. >>>> salmon pads stop really well but I’ve had several pair on different bikes >>>> and different brake styles and after a bit they all started to make noise >>>> no matter how I adjusted them. I’ve also found that Paul Motolites in >>>> particular do not like having racks mounted to them. This made any existing >>>> brake noise multiples worse I assume due to the two sides being more rigid >>>> mounted together allowing for different resonance to occur and generate >>>> more noise. This was particularly apparent on my Gus I assume due to its >>>> unique front end geometry. >>>> >>>> My opinion on the Paul Motolites is mixed. On the one hand, they’re >>>> beautiful and the quick release mechanism is nice compared to typical >>>> v-brakes with the noodle holding it all together. The adjustment mechanism >>>> is also a work of arm and does make adjusting for different when sizes a >>>> bit nicer. However, I’m not sure they’re worth the money purely on the >>>> basis of function. To me they’re like a designer handbag. They make a nice >>>> accessory when paired with other nice accessories and a good outfit they >>>> can be stunning. But at the end of the day, a $5 handbag holds stuff as >>>> well as a $300 handbag. My $30 Shimano Alivio v-brakes stop my Appaloosa >>>> just as well as the $300 Motolites on my Gus. But my Gus is my pretty show >>>> bike that I take out on the town on a Sunny Saturday to get things at the >>>> farmer’s market. My Appaloosa is my daily driver. I lock it up outside of >>>> stores and restaurants and ride it, rain or shine, to work 5 days a week. >>>> It’s still a nice bike but the parts on it are more utilitarian in nature. >>>> The frame is the flashiest piece of kit on the whole bike and I like it >>>> that way. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:24 PM Julian Westerhout <weste...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bill, >>>>> >>>>> Which brakes are they? Which pads are you using? Are they properly >>>>> slightly toed in? >>>>> >>>>> Photos would help in making a diagnosis -- but I doubt the squawking >>>>> is due to the brakes themselves -- more likely to be pad type and/or >>>>> setup. >>>>> >>>>> Julian Westerhout >>>>> Bloomington, IL >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I bought Paul brakes for my Atlantis and initially loved them. Now, >>>>>> however, they squawk like a stuck goose. I’ve cleaned the rims, sanded >>>>>> the >>>>>> pads but with no success. They were installed by a bike shop so I don’t >>>>>> think that’s the problem. It’s embarrassing to ride at times. I’m looking >>>>>> for suggestions to ease the noise. Thanks in advance. Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a set of cantilevers and a set of center pulls, both >>>>>>> purchased used off this list, I think. What I really like about both >>>>>>> sets >>>>>>> is how easy it is to disconnect and re-connect the straddle cables >>>>>>> making >>>>>>> wheel removal and installation so much easier. Even though I didn't pay >>>>>>> full retail they were still quite pricey compared to what I had. I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> regret my purchases at all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bill S >>>>>>> San Diego >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:29:03 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul brakes are worth it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you buy, try and decide you don't like them you can sell them >>>>>>>> for close to what you paid! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:22:34 PM UTC-5 Jay Riley wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PS: I'll always keep hydro brakes on the dual-suspension mtn >>>>>>>>> bike. They're cool! The braking assignment is short, severe braking >>>>>>>>> loads, as opposed to braking loads on a road or touring bike. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jay >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:44 PM Jay Riley <jjri...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "the extra complication (bleeding) over the cable Pauls" has sent >>>>>>>>>> me back to cables and calipers on 2 of my bikes. Especially if I'm >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> hilly and mountainous terrain, especially especially when touring >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> moderate loads (35lbs) in that terrain, disc-brake pads wear out way >>>>>>>>>> faster >>>>>>>>>> than ol' fashioned brake pads. Hydraulic discs are super easy to >>>>>>>>>> squeeze >>>>>>>>>> and modulate, and although my thumbs are already arthritic I can >>>>>>>>>> still stop >>>>>>>>>> just fine w'cable brakes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jay >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jay Riley, mobile 603-498-5199 <(603)%20498-5199> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 8:24 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, good to know. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 6:06 PM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Klampers are great, the couple hydraulic systems I've tried >>>>>>>>>>>> (stock on new bikes, I don't remember the brands) were marginally >>>>>>>>>>>> greater >>>>>>>>>>>> on the road but not worth the extra complication (bleeding) over >>>>>>>>>>>> the cable >>>>>>>>>>>> Pauls. Your results may vary on steep, rocky descents I don't ride. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 4:46:22 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Philip: Can you (or can anyone else for that matter) say how >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Klampers perform compared to TRP Hy Rds or to full >>>>>>>>>>>>> hydraulics? I was >>>>>>>>>>>>> just talking to my brother about the Hy Rds and wondering if the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kampers >>>>>>>>>>>>> would be as powerful and modulate as well without the hydraulic >>>>>>>>>>>>> complication. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Klampers have single-side pad actuation, right? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 3:36 PM Philip Williamson < >>>>>>>>>>>>> philip.w...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... 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