Pads, brakes, brake levers, rim braking surface, and even the frame and 
fork that the brakes are mounted on -- they are an integrated system, they 
all work together to slow and/or stop the spinning wheels. Change any one 
part and, for better or worse,  you've altered the system. 

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 10:24:36 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> We were kind of hijacking Bill's new canti-Roa bike post with discussion 
> about brakes, pad material, and rims so I decided to start a new one to 
> continue.  Bill has stated that in his experience over the years as a 
> mechanic he was required to address all kinds of issues from cyclists 
> concerning brakes, but nothing about rims.  He also said that the rim 
> material was just as important if no more so than brakes or pad material.  
> I'm inclined to take his word for it, given his work experience, but I'd 
> like to toss a personal episode into the ring:
>
> A number of years ago I bought a set of Tektro SP brakes for an existing 
> road bike.  This bike has wheels with Mavic Open Pro rims.  Given the fact 
> that those rims, though they are machined, do not have the most optimal 
> braking surface.  However, I really had to pull hard on the levers to get 
> those Tektro brakes to stop the bike.  So I decided to swap the pads for 
> those dubiously touted "salmon" colored pads and braking improved 
> dramatically.  The point being that there may be something to the pad 
> material after all.
>
> Thoughts? Experiences?
>
>

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