That Ogre is ready to go, nice! I wouldn't consider commuting on the Hunq either but I do ride it like anything else.
On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 2:10:16 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote: > [image: IMG_3203.jpeg]I get more compliments on my Ogre than my Riv’s as > well! I’ve got one like your Hunq but in green. I’d never take that > commuting. Not so much for it getting stolen but folks not being gentle > when they lock up their bikes. And honestly, getting it stolen. > They salt the roads here as well. I’d never take my Riv’s after a storm. > > I recently bought a fairly nice Trek FX for my daughter. Low-mid level > Shimano components. Everything works well. Has fender and rack mounts. All > for $50! It’s a nice riding bike. And probably something I’d consider if I > needed a cheap, nice-riding commuter. Especially for the salty winter > months. > > On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 11:09:56 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote: > >> Ginz - Thanks for the reply. I feel like riding it and using it for its >> intended purpose is probably the right answer. I just feel like it may be a >> bit of a target. IDK, it’s mostly us nerds that think Rivss are cool and >> not beach cruisers anyway, right… Forgive me if I should know; do you >> commute on a Rivendell Ginz? >> >> >> Hoch - My commute is short as well, and by design. The last time I moved >> and got a new job I made sure that my work was in the same zip code as my >> residence. I see your point about riding the Ogre, but again, it’s not a >> cheap bike to replace either. Also, my job is too all-consuming to worry >> about anything else while at work; which can good and bad at times. >> >> >> Cody - Thanks for adding some real-world experience commuting with that >> killer Hillborne. You’re right, people seem to know Surly better (at least >> here in the Midwest) I probably get more compliments on the Ogre and my >> daughter’s Crosscheck than I do my Rivs. Thanks for adding the pic of your >> bikes…notes the saddle lock…is that wrapped in an old tube? >> >> >> Bill - Well put. That’s how I’m viewing it. Again, I put more miles on >> the drop bar Atlantis but I ride my commuter WAY more often. Bill, do you >> have the luxury of taking your daily driver inside or do you park out in >> the wild? I’d love to see a pic too if you've got time. >> >> >> Josiah - Love that you ride those bikes around and lock ‘em up outside. I >> do figure that most people don’t think the Atlantis is cool enough to >> steal, not compared to other bikes around. Indy used to get snow regularly, >> all winter long, but now we get maybe 1 or 2 good snows and the rest is >> just slop. If it’s too nasty I’ll just drive. I don’t have time in the >> mornings to show up covered in road sludge. >> >> >> B - I agree >> >> >> Patrick - Told ya. First world problem indeed. I work in a hospital in >> critical care and there just really isn’t anywhere to put it. I do park out >> of the way as much as possible but can't take it in. I love that Matthews >> and your utilitarian approach to John’s strap-rigged, awkward, package >> haul’n >> >> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 12:58:48 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote: >> >>> I used to do multi-mode commuting before I retired about 18 years ago - >>> ride the bike to the station, take train to the city, walk 4-5 blocks to >>> the office. Never worried much about theft out here in the 'burbs while >>> working downtown because it was an old early 70's Fuji that I had re-geared >>> and converted for commuting. It was the ideal bike for that - rode well, >>> handled well, and was by no means an eye-catcher. >>> >>> BUT, I'd be way more concerned about salt damage during the Winter >>> months (used to live in the Indy area myself and, yes, they use it on the >>> streets there in abundance) and riding on hazardous icy slick surfaces than >>> I would theft. >>> >>> BTW, why the classification of your Indy location, or the U.S. for that >>> matter, as a 1st World country in particular? In many ways nowadays it is >>> backsliding into 3rd World status. >>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 11:13:15 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>>> Speaking of parking indoors: our priest got tired of me taking the bike >>>> into the church (well, it was until a couple of weeks ago a prefab now >>>> used >>>> as the hall) to park it in the bathroom or library or kitchen, so he gave >>>> me a key to the outside utility closet. I had seniority rights as I'd been >>>> parking inside since about 1995 and he only arrived in about 2010. >>>> >>>> I think he gave me the key after I wheeled my Ken Rogers into the >>>> library at the start of a parish council meeting .... >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 10:05 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> First world problem indeed! But I felt it back when I commuted to an >>>>> office. >>>>> >>>>> First, is there any way you could cajole, plead, whine, insist that >>>>> your employer let you park your bike inside? Do you have an office? I was >>>>> always able to park the bike in my office (once I had a second office as >>>>> a >>>>> garage) and that solved many problems -- one huge advantage of always >>>>> working for smaller organizations. >>>>> >>>>> Or what about locking the bike in a parking garage, out of the way of >>>>> at least many casual thieves and vandals? >>>>> >>>>> But lastly: If I had had to park outside in the a place with "average" >>>>> risk of theft, I'd have done 1 of 2 things: 1. get a beater that rides >>>>> like >>>>> my "good" bikes and build it for performance but make it look as ugly and >>>>> cheap as I could; or: 2. uglify and simplify (strip as far as practical) >>>>> one of my good bikes. and in each case, load it up with locks. I always >>>>> commuted on fixed gears so that was already a big step in diminishing >>>>> apparent resale value. >>>>> >>>>> But even more lastly: if there were no alternative and I had to risk >>>>> theft of a $2.5K Clem or ride a bike that didn't feel as good -- I dunno, >>>>> I'd be hard pressed to decide what to do. >>>>> >>>>> I've attached a (yes, another already) photo of my principal errand >>>>> bike (I no longer commute to work) but I do errands and ride to church >>>>> and >>>>> other places on all of my bikes. New: hot-rodded ASC hub!!! >>>>> >>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 7:49 AM Josh C <getjosh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all. I find myself trying to make a decision regarding which >>>>>> bike to use as my commuter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Background: I live in Indianapolis and ride my bike for a good chunk >>>>>> of my daily needs. I have a short commute to work which is done on bike >>>>>> 90% >>>>>> of the time. I usually work from 5:20-ish am to about 6:30 pm 3-4 days a >>>>>> week. The only days I don't ride in are if it's pouring rain when I get >>>>>> up, >>>>>> or the snow is too deep to get through. I could ride in the rain, and >>>>>> don't >>>>>> mind it on the way home, but already get up at 4:30 am and simply don't >>>>>> have time to change or mess with it on work days. I'm commuting on a >>>>>> Rohloff-equipped Surly Ogre currently and have put less than 1K miles on >>>>>> my >>>>>> car this year. We live near downtown and are a short ride to many things >>>>>> that we like to do. We often ride to ball games, art exhibits, concerts, >>>>>> dinners, drinks...you name it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dilemma: Now I warned you that this is a 1st world problem, but here >>>>>> goes. I have several Riv's and they are my favorite bikes to ride but I >>>>>> find myself on the Ogre more often than any other bike. I may accumulate >>>>>> more miles on my Rivs, as I ride a Toyo Atlantis as my all-road bike, >>>>>> but I >>>>>> do way more trips on the Surly. For some reason, I simply feel more >>>>>> comfortable locking up the Surly for 13 hours or outside of a music >>>>>> venue >>>>>> downtown than I do a Rivendell. In my mind, the Riv seems like more of a >>>>>> target for would-be thieves than the Surly and thus it gets most of the >>>>>> day-to-day duty. The thing is that I enjoy riding a Rivendell much more >>>>>> than the Surly and, after giving this some thought, had decided to buy a >>>>>> Clem when this latest batch of completes was released, and start using >>>>>> it >>>>>> for my daily driver. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, after doing some math in my head, and realizing that I'd >>>>>> likely change a lot of the Clem complete build, I am thinking that I'd >>>>>> might as well ride one of the Rivs that I currently own. By the time I >>>>>> get >>>>>> the Clem to my door, I've spent $2500 with shipping and tax. I'd change >>>>>> the >>>>>> bars, add a saddle, add fenders, have the front wheel rebuilt with a >>>>>> dyno >>>>>> hub, and so on. I'd easily be into it for $3K or more. My Surly has a >>>>>> $1400 >>>>>> rear hub and is easily over the $3K mark. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am lucky enough to have two Rivendell Atlantis and a Hunq. I've >>>>>> owned several others in the past as well. One of the Atlantis bikes that >>>>>> I >>>>>> have would fit the bill. It's the more recent style with the longer >>>>>> wheelbase & double top tube. These are super sturdy bikes that wouldn't >>>>>> mind being loaded up and taken to work. I've already got a wheelset with >>>>>> a >>>>>> dyno hub and a light lying around here somewhere. I purchased this bike >>>>>> for >>>>>> $3K this summer from a local guy. I didn't need the bike but just >>>>>> couldn't >>>>>> pass it up as it was so cool! >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought to myself: I've locked up more expensive bikes at work for >>>>>> 13 hours or at music venues until the wee hours of the night without >>>>>> issue, >>>>>> so why not just do the bulk of my riding on a bike that I truly enjoy >>>>>> riding? What am I saving it for? >>>>>> >>>>>> Questions: Is my logic sound? Do you think that riding a nice Riv to >>>>>> work, to lock it up outside all, day in a city, is a dumb idea? Do you >>>>>> commute on a Riv that is left outside all day? >>>>>> >>>>>> *I'd also like to use this as an opportunity to see some of your >>>>>> commuters. Feel free to post a pic of your daily driver and also, let us >>>>>> know if you lock it up outside or not. * >>>>>> >>>>>> The potential commuter. (I'd change the fenders and bars) >>>>>> [image: IMG_0630 Medium.jpeg] >>>>>> >>>>>> My current all road bike >>>>>> [image: IMG_0514 Medium.jpeg] >>>>>> >>>>>> Not a commuter. 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