Here's the '93 catalog page showing Superbe Pro brakes: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1993/pages/26.htm
What I remember is that the RB-1 had good performance at a lower price than Colnago, Paramount, Medici, LandShark, Pinarello, Olmo, Basso, Cinelli (among others) that I would see at USCF races in California back in the late 80s to early 90s. As to RB-1 vs Roadini, do as Bill said, buy the one that appeals the most and save up for the other. jim mather walnut creek, ca On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 2:53:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: > Now this is an interesting challenge. The RB1 had a good reputation > amongst the competition for its performance. > > Is it better than many other mid-level road bikes of its period? If yes, > why? (Formal and not agent or material causes; that is, what do you feel > when you ride it that makes it better?) > > Now I'd agree with Armand's sentiments if applied to the XO-1 (and > cousins) (and I don't disagree with him about the RB-1; I have never ridden > a RB-1.) But as to the XO series, I did ride a 1992 XO-1 extensively, and I > do think it was a very innovative design but an immature execution compared > to later 26" wheel customs Grant designed and to the, say, Sam (owned a > first-ed) and, I expect, to other later Rivendell "all 'round" or country > bikes. > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 3:32 PM Armand Kizirian <kiziria...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I'd say the "1" in the RB-1 and "Bridgestone" in the name Bridgestone is >> about the most desirable things out of that bike. Do a blind test with it >> and any of the exceptionally similar roadbikes from the era and I doubt you >> can tell the difference. >> >> I'd take the bike that the designer made with an additional 35+ years of >> experience (Grant). >> >> On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> That very well could be. I'm sure there's a '93 Bridgestone Catalog >>> somewhere out there with the full specs. For some reason I thought that the >>> Superbe Pro were spec'd on both red and yellow versions but it could just >>> be the red one. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 2:02 PM Ryan <ryte...@mts.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Iirc I thought it was the yellow rb1 that >>>> came with sti while the red had those superbe brakes in 1993 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 3:49:52 PM UTC-6 Brian Cunningham >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Must've been too good of a deal. In the 90 minutes since your post, >>>>> Irving, the listing has been removed. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 12:11:09 PM UTC-8 Irving wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you're looking for something: >>>>>> >>>>>> - 57cm-ish >>>>>> - steel frame >>>>>> - wide tired, rim brake >>>>>> - in San Francisco >>>>>> - something along the lines of a Roadini or RB-1 >>>>>> - cheaper than both of the aforementioned frames >>>>>> >>>>>> You may be interested in this neat Waterford that popped up: >>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-57cm-waterford-gravel/7697225437.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Irving >>>>>> SF, CA >>>>>> On Thursday, December 21, 2023 at 7:01:37 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I owned a Red '93 RB-1 and it died in a car crash that put me in the >>>>>>> hospital for days and in rehab for months. I loved that bike and should >>>>>>> have been more aggressive about using it so that when it died it >>>>>>> wouldn't >>>>>>> have hurt so much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Having said that, it's nowhere as versatile a bike as my current >>>>>>> Roadini. The default gearing on the RB-1 was way too high for most >>>>>>> cyclists, and there's some toe clip overlap while the Roadini has none. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Roadini would probably have withstood Richard Mlyrnarik's pedaling >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> longer than a season (he cracked his RB-1 in a year of riding) The >>>>>>> longer >>>>>>> chainstays of the Roadini means it descends better, and the Roadini >>>>>>> won't >>>>>>> climb any worse. The yellow RB-1 came with STIs and I've killed the >>>>>>> 8-speed >>>>>>> STIs once and won't ride them again (indexing doesn't agree with me). >>>>>>> Despite the Craiglist declaration, I believe the yellow RB-1 came with >>>>>>> Suntour Superbe Pro brakes rather than Shimano 600 ones. But the >>>>>>> Shimano >>>>>>> 600 dual pivots are better, so that's not an issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All in all, if I had the opportunity to exchange my Roadini for a >>>>>>> '93 RB-1, I wouldn't. The RB-1 was a nice bike, but not as nice as what >>>>>>> I've built up my Roadini to be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 20, 2023 at 11:48:22 AM UTC-8 >>>>>>> brenton...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-57cm-time-capsule-1993/7688650100.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The seller said he’d go as low as $1600. There’s gotta be some >>>>>>>> opinions here. I have debated 90s road bike vs Roadini in previous >>>>>>>> threads >>>>>>>> and I’m still considering both. Building a Roadini would cost me >>>>>>>> $2000-$2200. 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