Thanks Kim. I have only used Technomic stems because they were the longest available when I started with Riv in ‘97 or so. I think on my first road I used the shorter Technomic deluxe.
On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 7:23 PM Kim H. <krhet...@gmail.com> wrote: > @Joel, > The Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stemis very much different than that of the > Nitto Technomic Tallux in that the NTC-280 stem's quill is a length of > 11.02 inches, while the Tallux stem's quill length is shorter, 10.3 inches. > > This is where I bought mine: > https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-stem-1 > > Kim Hetzel. > On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 5:50:11 AM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Kim, is this NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem the same as the Technomic? I >> never heard the NTC-280 part before. The Technomic is the old high stem I >> think Riv now calls the Tallux. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:52 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> @John, >>> From you have spoken about more weight distribution further back on the >>> rear wheel and the handlebars closer to the rider for a comfortable upright >>> riding position, in my case with my 52cm Clem "L" bike, I have found myself >>> very comfortable with more weight on the back wheel with a Sakae Ringyo >>> MTE-100 seat post paired with a Brooks B-66S saddle. As far as getting the >>> my Nitto Bosco bars higher and closer to me, I found a NITTO Technomic >>> NTC-280 Stem to get me there. The stem is outrageously tall, yet it all >>> works for me with everything around these long chain stays as a senior >>> cyclist. >>> >>> Kim Hetzel. [image: 20240128_143701hhh0000nnnn.jpg] >>> >>> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 8:04:12 AM UTC-8 John Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> I have both normal and longish chainstay bikes in my house. I like the >>>> aesthetics of both, and they both feel "normal" (like Matt from Crust said) >>>> once you're riding. >>>> >>>> I know way less about bike handling and geometry than most of you, but >>>> one thing I assume that when you're riding in a more upright position, you >>>> want those long chainstays because your center of gravity is more aft than >>>> with a "traditional" bike position, where you are leaned a bit more forward >>>> on your hands and your weight is distributed more up front. It makes >>>> intuitive sense to me, and if you look at both Jones and Riv, the comfy >>>> upright position that they both aim for (albeit via different routes) >>>> involves getting the bars closer to you (high stack and short reach in the >>>> case of Jones, high handlebars in the case of Riv) and long chainstays. It >>>> would make sense that if the rider's weight is supposed to be farther back, >>>> the bike design should take this into account. >>>> >>>> -John >>>> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 3:57:29 PM UTC+1 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, the larger volume tires are definitely part of the ride quality >>>>> equation. If they are “bouncy” the pressure is too high. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 8, 2024, at 8:50 AM, Chris Halasz <cha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'll chime in that while the very long (54cm?) chainstays on some of >>>>> the frames introduce some storage concerns, they (the Platypus, for >>>>> instance) ride very, very nicely. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That said, I dislike the common (what, 41cm?) short chainstays far >>>>> more than I dislike the extended variety. >>>>> >>>>> My chainstay sweet spot compromise may be more like 46cm, but I find >>>>> myself drawn to even longer. >>>>> >>>>> What I haven't yet come to appreciate are large tires for road use, >>>>> say, anything over 35mm. The longer chainstay bikes, to me, start to look >>>>> nervous with narrower tires. I really like the looks of the Clem H, >>>>> though. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe there's more learning for me to appreciate the wider, heavier, >>>>> bouncier tread. But that's another topic. >>>>> >>>>> - Chris >>>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 8:30:45 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ian thinks "there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your >>>>>> perspective." >>>>>> >>>>>> You are allowed to think whatever you like about me and my motives. >>>>>> Are you in the market for a new (to you) bike now? What is your build >>>>>> concept? >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill Lindsay >>>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 4:02:18 PM UTC-8 ian m wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All those wanting Rivendell to re-release bikes they made 10 years >>>>>>> ago do NOT have to turn in their Riv card, but they ARE outing >>>>>>> themselves >>>>>>> as PAWNS of the T&D IC. Resist the pressures of the Time and Date >>>>>>> Industrial Complex! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BL I feel like I understand where you're coming from in this thread >>>>>>> and largely I don't disagree with much of what you're saying but I think >>>>>>> there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your perspective. >>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>> do have whatever the reverse of FOMO is when it comes to Riv bikes (Sad >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> Missed Out, SIMO?). I learned about Riv circa the late aughts while >>>>>>> working >>>>>>> at Amoeba in Berkeley and riding my POS fixed gear bike (with Wald 808 >>>>>>> bars >>>>>>> and front basket) everywhere. Dreamt of virtually every model at the >>>>>>> time, >>>>>>> all of which were firmly out of reach with a record store employee >>>>>>> paycheck. Had I been able to afford a couple twos threes of their bikes >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> the time I'd probably be hang up free about their current designs. But I >>>>>>> think we all want what we can't have, and (for a terrible comparison) I >>>>>>> lament plenty of other unfortunate changes like the reality of modern >>>>>>> pickup trucks as opposed to my first two, the Datsun 720 and Toyota >>>>>>> 22RE. >>>>>>> Change may be constant but it's not always beneficial >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/19c4d79e-e56c-44dd-be2d-b4013c8585ffn%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/19c4d79e-e56c-44dd-be2d-b4013c8585ffn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/P5Cfxk3lrN8/unsubscribe >>> . >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c51794ff-742e-4a41-8a68-c6690a91629cn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c51794ff-742e-4a41-8a68-c6690a91629cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/P5Cfxk3lrN8/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e8c5dc6d-1017-49bd-b082-234e3594b8e6n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e8c5dc6d-1017-49bd-b082-234e3594b8e6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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