@Joel, I am grateful to hear that you have arrived at the much desired height with your handlebar stem.
Comfort in the cockpit is everything. Kim Hetzel. On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:02 AM J S <jrster...@gmail.com> wrote: > Kim, I have the height I need while it is maxed out it is just what I > need. > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:59 PM Kim H. <krhet...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @Joel, >> >> It is quite comforting to hear that I am not alone in not wanting to have >> a threadless stem on my bicycle, my Clem. I only have one bicycle that I >> ride. The other is a retired road bike that I would like to sell to a good >> home. >> >> Would the Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stem help you get the height you want >> on your favorite bike ? >> >> Kim Hetzel. >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 5:51 AM J S <jrster...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Kim, I agree, I have never wanted a threadless stem, probably for the >>> same reasons as you. In my mind a threadless stem will not give me the >>> height I desire, maybe I am wrong but I have my bikes and will not be >>> adding any more. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 8:51 PM Kim H. <krhet...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> @Joel, >>>> You are more than welcome. >>>> I was very fortunate to find this very quill stem. I could not bring >>>> myself to go threadless, after over 40 years going used to quill stems. I >>>> am very slow to change, by the way. I am very happy with the The Nitto >>>> Technomic NTC-280 stem. >>>> >>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Kim. I have only used Technomic stems because they were the >>>> longest available when I started with Riv in ‘97 or so. I think on my first >>>> road I used the shorter Technomic deluxe. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 7:23 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> @Joel, >>>> The Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stemis very much different than that of >>>> the Nitto Technomic Tallux in that the NTC-280 stem's quill is a length of >>>> 11.02 inches, while the Tallux stem's quill length is shorter, 10.3 inches. >>>> >>>> This is where I bought mine: >>>> https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-stem-1 >>>> >>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 5:50:11 AM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Kim, is this NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem the same as the Technomic? >>>> I never heard the NTC-280 part before. The Technomic is the old high stem I >>>> think Riv now calls the Tallux. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:52 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> @John, >>>> From you have spoken about more weight distribution further back on the >>>> rear wheel and the handlebars closer to the rider for a comfortable upright >>>> riding position, in my case with my 52cm Clem "L" bike, I have found myself >>>> very comfortable with more weight on the back wheel with a Sakae Ringyo >>>> MTE-100 seat post paired with a Brooks B-66S saddle. As far as getting the >>>> my Nitto Bosco bars higher and closer to me, I found a NITTO Technomic >>>> NTC-280 Stem to get me there. The stem is outrageously tall, yet it all >>>> works for me with everything around these long chain stays as a senior >>>> cyclist. >>>> >>>> Kim Hetzel. [image: 20240128_143701hhh0000nnnn.jpg] >>>> >>>> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 8:04:12 AM UTC-8 John Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>> I have both normal and longish chainstay bikes in my house. I like the >>>> aesthetics of both, and they both feel "normal" (like Matt from Crust said) >>>> once you're riding. >>>> >>>> I know way less about bike handling and geometry than most of you, but >>>> one thing I assume that when you're riding in a more upright position, you >>>> want those long chainstays because your center of gravity is more aft than >>>> with a "traditional" bike position, where you are leaned a bit more forward >>>> on your hands and your weight is distributed more up front. It makes >>>> intuitive sense to me, and if you look at both Jones and Riv, the comfy >>>> upright position that they both aim for (albeit via different routes) >>>> involves getting the bars closer to you (high stack and short reach in the >>>> case of Jones, high handlebars in the case of Riv) and long chainstays. It >>>> would make sense that if the rider's weight is supposed to be farther back, >>>> the bike design should take this into account. >>>> >>>> -John >>>> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 3:57:29 PM UTC+1 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, the larger volume tires are definitely part of the ride quality >>>> equation. If they are “bouncy” the pressure is too high. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 8, 2024, at 8:50 AM, Chris Halasz <cha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'll chime in that while the very long (54cm?) chainstays on some of >>>> the frames introduce some storage concerns, they (the Platypus, for >>>> instance) ride very, very nicely. >>>> >>>> >>>> That said, I dislike the common (what, 41cm?) short chainstays far more >>>> than I dislike the extended variety. >>>> >>>> My chainstay sweet spot compromise may be more like 46cm, but I find >>>> myself drawn to even longer. >>>> >>>> What I haven't yet come to appreciate are large tires for road use, >>>> say, anything over 35mm. The longer chainstay bikes, to me, start to look >>>> nervous with narrower tires. I really like the looks of the Clem H, though. >>>> >>>> Maybe there's more learning for me to appreciate the wider, heavier, >>>> bouncier tread. But that's another topic. >>>> >>>> - Chris >>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 8:30:45 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>> >>>> Ian thinks "there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your >>>> perspective." >>>> >>>> You are allowed to think whatever you like about me and my motives. >>>> Are you in the market for a new (to you) bike now? What is your build >>>> concept? >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 4:02:18 PM UTC-8 ian m wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>> >>>> All those wanting Rivendell to re-release bikes they made 10 years ago >>>> do NOT have to turn in their Riv card, but they ARE outing themselves as >>>> PAWNS of the T&D IC. Resist the pressures of the Time and Date Industrial >>>> Complex! >>>> >>>> >>>> BL I feel like I understand where you're coming from in this thread and >>>> largely I don't disagree with much of what you're saying but I think >>>> there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your perspective. Yes, I >>>> do have whatever the reverse of FOMO is when it comes to Riv bikes (Sad I >>>> Missed Out, SIMO?). I learned about Riv circa the late aughts while working >>>> at Amoeba in Berkeley and riding my POS fixed gear bike (with Wald 808 bars >>>> and front basket) everywhere. Dreamt of virtually every model at the time, >>>> all of which were firmly out of reach with a record store employee >>>> paycheck. Had I been able to afford a couple twos threes of their bikes at >>>> the time I'd probably be hang up free about their current designs. 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