Well, now I'm more curious and might have a reason to go visit my giant local Trek store!
Eric On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 9:59 PM Mike Godwin <spokenhu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Eric D asked what model Treks. Good question, as I just walked in on the > sout side of the store and exited on the north side. > > Well, went back to the LBS today after dental appointment. I was looking > for 1) a chain checker tool, and 2) Purple Loctite #222. Fizzled out on > both. The long wheelbase Treks are the FX 1, FX 2 and FX 3. Sports are a > bit shorter. Nothing like what Kim Hetzel shows in the Clem photo. The web > photos appear to show a bike with a shorter wheelbase, shorter chainstays > than what I observed, in person, at the LBS. > > Mike SLO CA > > On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote: > >> @Joel, >> I am grateful to hear that you have arrived at the much desired height >> with your handlebar stem. >> >> Comfort in the cockpit is everything. >> >> Kim Hetzel. >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:02 AM J S <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Kim, I have the height I need while it is maxed out it is just what I >>> need. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:59 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> @Joel, >>>> >>>> It is quite comforting to hear that I am not alone in not wanting to >>>> have a threadless stem on my bicycle, my Clem. I only have one bicycle that >>>> I ride. The other is a retired road bike that I would like to sell to a >>>> good home. >>>> >>>> Would the Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stem help you get the height you want >>>> on your favorite bike ? >>>> >>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 5:51 AM J S <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kim, I agree, I have never wanted a threadless stem, probably for the >>>>> same reasons as you. In my mind a threadless stem will not give me the >>>>> height I desire, maybe I am wrong but I have my bikes and will not be >>>>> adding any more. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 8:51 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @Joel, >>>>>> You are more than welcome. >>>>>> I was very fortunate to find this very quill stem. I could not bring >>>>>> myself to go threadless, after over 40 years going used to quill stems. I >>>>>> am very slow to change, by the way. I am very happy with the The Nitto >>>>>> Technomic NTC-280 stem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Kim. I have only used Technomic stems because they were the >>>>>> longest available when I started with Riv in ‘97 or so. I think on my >>>>>> first >>>>>> road I used the shorter Technomic deluxe. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 7:23 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> @Joel, >>>>>> The Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stemis very much different than that of >>>>>> the Nitto Technomic Tallux in that the NTC-280 stem's quill is a length >>>>>> of >>>>>> 11.02 inches, while the Tallux stem's quill length is shorter, 10.3 >>>>>> inches. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is where I bought mine: >>>>>> https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-stem-1 >>>>>> >>>>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 5:50:11 AM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kim, is this NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem the same as the >>>>>> Technomic? I never heard the NTC-280 part before. The Technomic is the >>>>>> old >>>>>> high stem I think Riv now calls the Tallux. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:52 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> @John, >>>>>> From you have spoken about more weight distribution further back on >>>>>> the rear wheel and the handlebars closer to the rider for a comfortable >>>>>> upright riding position, in my case with my 52cm Clem "L" bike, I have >>>>>> found myself very comfortable with more weight on the back wheel with a >>>>>> Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 seat post paired with a Brooks B-66S saddle. As far >>>>>> as >>>>>> getting the my Nitto Bosco bars higher and closer to me, I found a NITTO >>>>>> Technomic NTC-280 Stem to get me there. The stem is outrageously tall, >>>>>> yet >>>>>> it all works for me with everything around these long chain stays as a >>>>>> senior cyclist. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kim Hetzel. [image: 20240128_143701hhh0000nnnn.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 8:04:12 AM UTC-8 John Johnson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have both normal and longish chainstay bikes in my house. I like >>>>>> the aesthetics of both, and they both feel "normal" (like Matt from Crust >>>>>> said) once you're riding. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know way less about bike handling and geometry than most of you, >>>>>> but one thing I assume that when you're riding in a more upright >>>>>> position, >>>>>> you want those long chainstays because your center of gravity is more aft >>>>>> than with a "traditional" bike position, where you are leaned a bit more >>>>>> forward on your hands and your weight is distributed more up front. It >>>>>> makes intuitive sense to me, and if you look at both Jones and Riv, the >>>>>> comfy upright position that they both aim for (albeit via different >>>>>> routes) >>>>>> involves getting the bars closer to you (high stack and short reach in >>>>>> the >>>>>> case of Jones, high handlebars in the case of Riv) and long chainstays. >>>>>> It >>>>>> would make sense that if the rider's weight is supposed to be farther >>>>>> back, >>>>>> the bike design should take this into account. >>>>>> >>>>>> -John >>>>>> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 3:57:29 PM UTC+1 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, the larger volume tires are definitely part of the ride quality >>>>>> equation. If they are “bouncy” the pressure is too high. >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 8, 2024, at 8:50 AM, Chris Halasz <cha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll chime in that while the very long (54cm?) chainstays on some of >>>>>> the frames introduce some storage concerns, they (the Platypus, for >>>>>> instance) ride very, very nicely. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, I dislike the common (what, 41cm?) short chainstays far >>>>>> more than I dislike the extended variety. >>>>>> >>>>>> My chainstay sweet spot compromise may be more like 46cm, but I find >>>>>> myself drawn to even longer. >>>>>> >>>>>> What I haven't yet come to appreciate are large tires for road use, >>>>>> say, anything over 35mm. The longer chainstay bikes, to me, start to look >>>>>> nervous with narrower tires. I really like the looks of the Clem H, >>>>>> though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe there's more learning for me to appreciate the wider, heavier, >>>>>> bouncier tread. But that's another topic. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Chris >>>>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 8:30:45 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ian thinks "there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your >>>>>> perspective." >>>>>> >>>>>> You are allowed to think whatever you like about me and my motives. >>>>>> Are you in the market for a new (to you) bike now? What is your build >>>>>> concept? >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill Lindsay >>>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 4:02:18 PM UTC-8 ian m wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> All those wanting Rivendell to re-release bikes they made 10 years >>>>>> ago do NOT have to turn in their Riv card, but they ARE outing themselves >>>>>> as PAWNS of the T&D IC. Resist the pressures of the Time and Date >>>>>> Industrial Complex! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BL I feel like I understand where you're coming from in this thread >>>>>> and largely I don't disagree with much of what you're saying but I think >>>>>> there's a heaping good portion of "I got mine" in your perspective. Yes, >>>>>> I >>>>>> do have whatever the reverse of FOMO is when it comes to Riv bikes (Sad I >>>>>> Missed Out, SIMO?). I learned about Riv circa the late aughts while >>>>>> working >>>>>> at Amoeba in Berkeley and riding my POS fixed gear bike (with Wald 808 >>>>>> bars >>>>>> and front basket) everywhere. Dreamt of virtually every model at the >>>>>> time, >>>>>> all of which were firmly out of reach with a record store employee >>>>>> paycheck. Had I been able to afford a couple twos threes of their bikes >>>>>> at >>>>>> the time I'd probably be hang up free about their current designs. 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