Thanks, everyone! I feel like my decision to upgrade is cemented from the mere facts that the Gus is fillet brazed (ie. stronger frame), has less tail wobble (I've noticed this on the clem, but didn't think much of it in the past), and the unique feature that this is one of the very few Riv frames that are 1 1/8 threadless. in 2019, I went 5 day tour on a Miyata 1000 to Japan, fully loaded, and have experienced the torquing of the handlebars in common nitto quill stems, as well as the torquing of the quill in the headtube. I can totally see this issue being eliminated with a threadless 1 1/8 system. I guess one of my lingering concerns is the overall length of the bike, since I'm going from a 52 clem (650b) to a 57 gus (700c). I've already had a hard time bringing the clem up the elevator to my workplace... the Gus may not even make it in there, and i'd have to resort to using the service elevator each and every time. Anyway, that's a minor concern compared to the points everyone mentioned, so that's the least of my worries.
With that said, I guess my 52 Clem L in RBW blue will be going up for sale in a few weeks! I'm in the NYC tristate area. I don't plan on shipping because this is an abnormally long frame to ship. Looking forward to hearing from you all. Also, Thanks for all the help and wisdom! Best, IY On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 11:30:54 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > Bill brings up a detail I skipped over in my answer: keeping both. My > Sparkle Blue Used-To-Be-Leah's Clem L is a perfect shopper/cruiser I plan > to hit the trails with when this rain stops. I'd love to find a Gus for the > trails but I'm not giving up my Clem! > > Joe Bernard > > On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 8:06:27 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> I say go for it! They are very different bikes, so as usual, I could >> justify keeping both. If I had both and was asked to get rid of one and >> retain the other, I could easily see myself keeping the Gus. I think the >> Gus would do a better job impersonating the Clem than the Clem would do >> impersonating Gus. >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 9:34:49 AM UTC-8 NYCbikeguy wrote: >> >>> Regardless of the price/value of each frame, what do all of you think >>> are the pros and cons of either bikes? overlaps vs. differences? >>> Ultimately, which would you choose to keep? >>> >>> FYI, I tend to over-build my bikes and I enjoy riding them, so any >>> comments alluding to "that's too much bike" will be disregarded. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> IY >>> [image: IMG_8169.JPG] >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2bbea848-8533-4db1-98a0-a1f869ef76den%40googlegroups.com.
