Thanks for all the suggestions folks. Lighter rubber and/or lighter wheels on the Sam are an excellent place to start. And I appreciate the suggestion to enjoy the slowness. :)
But it's not really an illusion - on a different bike (29er mtn bike with 2.2" knobbys) i can do my 6 mile morning commute (in) in about 20 minutes if I hit most of the lights. on the Sam, it's more like 30. for commuting I could care less about the speed, but it's definitely different on the two bikes, and not in the direction I'd expect. For a 100 mile push though.. I do care if it's 6 hours or 8, on the bike. I'll try lighter rubber and figure out a 30 mile training course or something and see how it feels. But I do think an expanded geo SimpleOne, ur-Amos, etc., is in my future. Best, Andrew On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Bill Gibson wrote: > Perception of speed is just that: subjective. Enjoy your ride! To go > fast, get a good night's sleep, eat & drink well, be well, don't wear > flappy clothes, find your fast tires (which may or may not the most > durable). In that order. > > The engine, the air, then tires. If it's hilly, OK, lose weight, but > on the open plain, don't worry. On rolling hills extra momentum might > even help. > > On rough roads, my ancient prejudice has recently been scientifically > confirmed: fatter, lower pressure tires may seem slower, but aren't; > the song of tubulars and high pressure skinny tires is a siren song. > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Angus <angusle...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> Andrew, >> >> If it were me, changing the tires to a good quality lighter weight >> tire would be the first thing I would do. Panaracer Paselas (non- >> tourguard) roll reasonably well and relatively inexpensive. I've got >> 32s (measure 28-29) on the Rambouillet and 35s (measure 35) on the >> Quickbeam. Heavier/more durable tires on the Rambouillet were >> noticeably/measurably slower. >> >> Angus >> >> On Jun 13, 9:17 pm, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> hi folks, >>> >>> i loved riding my first century recently, on a Sam Hillborne, but it was a >>> pretty slow (though mostly comfortable) push. so the way i have it set up >>> it's excellent for city commuting and loaded touring / randonneuring, but >>> still think i want a gofast for club/training rides, built up with lighter >>> wheels/rubber, etc. >>> >>> the thing is - the expanded geometry of the Sam fits my build (and that of >>> a few other odd ducks who have recently posted) at 5'11 with an 84.5 pbh, >>> rounding up. >>> >>> so - of the current frames new or in circulation, what lightish, >>> expandedish frame should i be looking for for? should i simply try another >>> Sam? maybe a size down with a longer stem? :) >>> >>> just musing - but i figured y'all would have some opinions. >>> >>> thanks, >>> andrew >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > > -- > Bill Gibson > Tempe, Arizona, USA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
