This conversation got a bit interesting in thr CR Google group - my general 
consensus is that in the entire industry of obsolescence Grant is the only 
one fighting the fight for bikes that will be rideable 15+ years after 
their manufacture. Especially with electronic and carbon parts we will see 
less and less compatibility and more one time use. I think him advocating 
to the average individual that performance can look like a bike that it 
simple, elegant, high quality, and can last a lifetime. 

There are some companies following trend a bit like crust. I bought my 
romanceur as a low trail disc brake Atlantis alternative. Though I realized 
I am just not that fond of disc brakes and the required additional 
stiffening of everything to compensate for the flex. 

Grant isn't forcing anyone to adhere to his opinions - but he is having to 
dig his heels in yo advocate amongst a trend and profit driven industry 
that is racing biased and people take this fo being adversarial. I'd 
strongly argue that steel bikes, lugs, 650b, wheel sizes for different 
sizes, and fat tire road bikes. That in my opinion means every gravel bike 
owes a nod to grants innovation and steadfastness or we'd all still be 
riding pizza cutters. 


On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 8:08:44 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I believe there are different degrees of ebikes. Some are just an 
> electronic assist.
>
> On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 10:08:12 AM UTC-4 Matt B. wrote:
>
>> "often described e-bikes as mopeds"
>>
>> i mean, that's what they are... is an electric automobile not a car?
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 1:47:56 AM UTC-4 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Disc brakes are probably at the top of the list of things in which I 
>>> disagree with Grant. Living where I live and riding where I ride, I 
>>> sometimes thank the heavens for disc brakes. But that doesn't mean I want 
>>> them on all my bikes, and yet, here we are, in a timeline where it is the 
>>> only option for 99% of bike buyers who aren't even aware these days that 
>>> there might be other options, it seems.
>>>
>>> The bumper sticker idea is hilarious and extremely on the nose. Grant 
>>> (such a jerk!) has done a *phenomenal* job of "delaying wide-spread 
>>> adoption of disc brakes"... 
>>>
>>> so silly. What an odd, an ungenerous "take" on GP's legacy.
>>>
>>

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