*"**A real world example of how Petersen’s ideology has been harmful is that many local “steel is real” bike shops have historically refused to work on bikes with disc brakes, internal cable routing, carbon components, or e-bikes despite their popularity (and some still do)."*
I hope the author doesn't expect to be served Penne alla Vodka at a Thai restaurant. On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 1:22:24 PM UTC-4 Mathias Steiner wrote: > I think it's funny, and it's brightened my day a little. All the vitriol. > > Grant has said some things that I find ill-advised -- like referring to > padded shorts as 'diaper pads.' That's kind of eighth-grade, plus there are > folks who ride more comfortably with than without bike shorts. I'm one of > them, once I go beyond an hour or so. > > As far as disc brakes, I never owned any until I bought a trike that had > mechanical Tektros. After I moved that bike along, I had a better > understanding of discs, but I never bought another and don't plan to. A > good solution, but I'm not sure it has a corresponding problem. Everyone > else can do what they please, up to and including bike store mechanics. But > GP is handy for apportioning blame, so let's hope this was helpful to the > original complainant :) > > At least Grant gets credit for putting his money where his mouth is and > producing -- or causing to be produced -- parts that would be obsolete > otherwise. > I prefer clicky shifters over friction but I love having the option to > switch. I've started hoarding 8- and 9-speed STI compatible bar-ends. Too > bad Grant isn't adopting those as a cause. > > Now if he'd only allow his disciples to work on modern bikes... > On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 12:22:49 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright > wrote: > >> This conversation got a bit interesting in thr CR Google group - my >> general consensus is that in the entire industry of obsolescence Grant is >> the only one fighting the fight for bikes that will be rideable 15+ years >> after their manufacture. Especially with electronic and carbon parts we >> will see less and less compatibility and more one time use. I think him >> advocating to the average individual that performance can look like a bike >> that it simple, elegant, high quality, and can last a lifetime. >> >> There are some companies following trend a bit like crust. I bought my >> romanceur as a low trail disc brake Atlantis alternative. Though I realized >> I am just not that fond of disc brakes and the required additional >> stiffening of everything to compensate for the flex. >> >> Grant isn't forcing anyone to adhere to his opinions - but he is having >> to dig his heels in yo advocate amongst a trend and profit driven industry >> that is racing biased and people take this fo being adversarial. I'd >> strongly argue that steel bikes, lugs, 650b, wheel sizes for different >> sizes, and fat tire road bikes. That in my opinion means every gravel bike >> owes a nod to grants innovation and steadfastness or we'd all still be >> riding pizza cutters. >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 8:08:44 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: >> >>> I believe there are different degrees of ebikes. Some are just an >>> electronic assist. >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 10:08:12 AM UTC-4 Matt B. wrote: >>> >>>> "often described e-bikes as mopeds" >>>> >>>> i mean, that's what they are... is an electric automobile not a car? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 1:47:56 AM UTC-4 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Disc brakes are probably at the top of the list of things in which I >>>>> disagree with Grant. Living where I live and riding where I ride, I >>>>> sometimes thank the heavens for disc brakes. But that doesn't mean I want >>>>> them on all my bikes, and yet, here we are, in a timeline where it is the >>>>> only option for 99% of bike buyers who aren't even aware these days that >>>>> there might be other options, it seems. >>>>> >>>>> The bumper sticker idea is hilarious and extremely on the nose. Grant >>>>> (such a jerk!) has done a *phenomenal* job of "delaying wide-spread >>>>> adoption of disc brakes"... >>>>> >>>>> so silly. What an odd, an ungenerous "take" on GP's legacy. >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e1989ddf-4ddf-437c-9bc3-99fc3d3e16f9n%40googlegroups.com.
