While this thread is up, might as well mention that if anyone would like to sell their 55cm submarine green atlantis, to message me. ;)
On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 6:52:53 PM UTC-7 Mike Gillespie wrote: > Received my tariff/duties/customs/processing/disbursement fees from FedEx > today. $305. Guess it was too good to be true after all. My apologies to > anyone who made a similar purchase based on my prior post here. This was my > first purchase from Blue Lug, and although I’ve made smaller parts > purchases from European outlets in the past, I’ve never received a > subsequent billing for duties, etc. Still, given how much I enjoy this > bike, I’ve no regrets! > Mike > On Saturday, May 10, 2025 at 4:14:15 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote: > >> Ouch! >> >> On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 8:05:23 PM UTC-5 Brent Knepper wrote: >> >>> yeah fedex got me earlier in the week for ~$250 >>> duty/tax/fee/anything-but-the-word-tariff thing >>> >>> On Friday, May 9, 2025 at 7:11:57 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting. I had mine delivered to RBW late April and got a fedex >>>> bill of $300.. >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 3:31 PM Taylor Kurosaki <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I got my Atlantis from Blue Lug early this week. Looks like I didn't >>>>> pay any tariff. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 2:18:41 PM UTC-7 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I also ordered a blue lug 'lantis last friday and had it delivered >>>>>> today. no email/text/call or point of delivery paperwork with tariffs, >>>>>> but >>>>>> maybe there's a chance that comes later? >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: IMG_8419.JPG] >>>>>> [image: IMG_8420.JPG] >>>>>> >>>>>> for now my focus will be on figuring out how to make a sergio-green >>>>>> bike look cute as hell ◡̈ >>>>>> >>>>>> Brent in NY >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 2:29:10 PM UTC-4 Spencer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Reporting back, I just received my frame through blue lug today that >>>>>>> I ordered last Thursday/Friday. No charges or tariffs to report. Took a >>>>>>> few >>>>>>> days to get through customs and had to call fedex and submit some a >>>>>>> form >>>>>>> and then follow-up, but after that it was smooth sailing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Spencer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 8:44 AM Drew Fitchette <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As someone who's currently in the mire of paying tariffs on >>>>>>>> containers coming from various countries I can say that some have >>>>>>>> seemed to >>>>>>>> reflect the FOB(free on board) price, and some have seemed to reflect >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> Landed price. Meaning sometimes we're charged for only the cost of the >>>>>>>> goods, and sometimes we pay 10% on the price of transit. So it'd >>>>>>>> appear >>>>>>>> that the agents are kind of figuring it out as they go, but in both >>>>>>>> cases >>>>>>>> it was the flat 10% that we're set to incur until July when the >>>>>>>> "retaliatory tariffs" are done being paused. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Garth, Tariffs are based on whatever the invoice amount is to the >>>>>>>> end importer. So in this case, Taylor is the importer and FedEx is his >>>>>>>> broker. Since Blue Lug imports the frames directly from Taiwan we're >>>>>>>> technically re-importing the frames when we buy them and are subject >>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>> fee being based on their retail price. For Riv, the tariffs they pay >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> based on the container value of the frames/completes ordered from >>>>>>>> Taiwan >>>>>>>> and then passed on to us as customers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Taylor, I'm sorry that you seem to be the first one here to >>>>>>>> experience a hang up! Thanks for letting all of us know what's going >>>>>>>> on, >>>>>>>> it's super helpful! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Drew who's wondering why he works in Import/Export... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 8:07:50 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't tariffs based on the wholesale >>>>>>>>> price ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 7:44:18 AM UTC-4 >>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wow sooo is that like an extra $600? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 23:15 Taylor Kurosaki < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The listed tariff with any of the bicycle frame-adjacent codes >>>>>>>>>>> is 30%. This is total madness. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:53 PM, Mike Rossi <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ouch. According to the newest HTS website, it looks like the >>>>>>>>>>> code is 8714912000. That’s for bicycle frames, and forks totaling >>>>>>>>>>> over $600. >>>>>>>>>>> But, double check that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2025, at 8:44 PM, Bernard Duhon < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any idea what the tarrif might be?? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Scott G. >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2025 7:09 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: IRe: 2025 Atlantis pre-sale >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> HTS codes link >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have fun or hire a lawyer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://rulings.cbp.gov/search?term=bicycle%20frame&collection=ALL&sortBy=RELEVANCE&pageSize=30&page=1 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This not legal advice, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the message is covered under the Papal Encyclical of 1541. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 7:41:18 PM UTC-4 >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Be aware, my Blue Lug Atlantis frameset is now stuck in US >>>>>>>>>>> customs! The Trump tariffs are real and it's no joke that the >>>>>>>>>>> "importer" >>>>>>>>>>> pays the tariffs, not the seller. I just got off the phone with >>>>>>>>>>> FedEx and >>>>>>>>>>> they are supposedly sending me a form to be able to clear customs, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> ostensibly, to pay an import tariff on the goods. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They require the following information: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Description of the goods: It’s a bicycle frame. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. What are the items made of: made of steel, 100% >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. What is the item used for: it’s a bicycle, it’s made for >>>>>>>>>>> riding >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 4. 10 digit harmonized US tariff number?: no idea how to find >>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 5. EIN or SSN of the importer: I guess that's me! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 9:10:45 AM UTC-7 Taylor Kurosaki >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I was also incredibly excited for the Atlantis presale and >>>>>>>>>>> missed out on an opportunity to snag a blue Atlantis. I even went >>>>>>>>>>> to Blue >>>>>>>>>>> Lug's site shortly thereafter and was disappointed they had no >>>>>>>>>>> stock. >>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday I pulled the trigger on a 59cm in Sergio Green from Blue >>>>>>>>>>> Lug and >>>>>>>>>>> already got a FedEx tracking number. Couldn't be more excited and >>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>> it's kinda cool my Atlantis is coming from them. I stopped by their >>>>>>>>>>> Yoyogi >>>>>>>>>>> Park store in Tokyo last year and I haven't felt so much like a kid >>>>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>>>> candy store in a long time. Thanks to those who alerted us to Blue >>>>>>>>>>> Lug's >>>>>>>>>>> stock! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 6:09:04 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That's what I'm talk'n about, Mike. Killer setup. I'm a fan of >>>>>>>>>>> that color way. My wife's platty is in that color and it looks >>>>>>>>>>> great in >>>>>>>>>>> person. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I run that same outer shell basket bag for my daily commutes. I >>>>>>>>>>> have the larger one, I believe it's called the rack bag, and I used >>>>>>>>>>> to run >>>>>>>>>>> it on a soma porta folder rack, but now I just put it in the larger >>>>>>>>>>> wald >>>>>>>>>>> basket and it's nearly perfect for me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 10:12:49 PM UTC-4 Mike Gillespie >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ok Josh, here’s proof (hopefully). My attempt at capturing the >>>>>>>>>>> metallic nature of the paint job doesn’t come out well with my >>>>>>>>>>> iPhone so >>>>>>>>>>> these will have to suffice. 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