I got my Atlantis from Blue Lug early this week. Looks like I didn't pay 
any tariff.

On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 2:18:41 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

> I also ordered a blue lug 'lantis last friday and had it delivered today. 
> no email/text/call or point of delivery paperwork with tariffs, but maybe 
> there's a chance that comes later?
>
> [image: IMG_8419.JPG] 
> [image: IMG_8420.JPG]
>
> for now my focus will be on figuring out how to make a sergio-green bike 
> look cute as hell ◡̈
>
> Brent in NY
>
> On Friday, May 2, 2025 at 2:29:10 PM UTC-4 Spencer wrote:
>
>> Reporting back, I just received my frame through blue lug today that I 
>> ordered last Thursday/Friday. No charges or tariffs to report. Took a few 
>> days to get through customs and had to call fedex and submit some a form 
>> and then follow-up, but after that it was smooth sailing. 
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 8:44 AM Drew Fitchette <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As someone who's currently in the mire of paying tariffs on containers 
>>> coming from various countries I can say that some have seemed to reflect 
>>> the FOB(free on board) price, and some have seemed to reflect a Landed 
>>> price. Meaning sometimes we're charged for only the cost of the goods, and 
>>> sometimes we pay 10% on the price of transit. So it'd appear that the 
>>> agents are kind of figuring it out as they go, but in both cases it was the 
>>> flat 10% that we're set to incur until July when the "retaliatory tariffs" 
>>> are done being paused. 
>>>
>>> Garth, Tariffs are based on whatever the invoice amount is to the end 
>>> importer. So in this case, Taylor is the importer and FedEx is his broker. 
>>> Since Blue Lug imports the frames directly from Taiwan we're technically 
>>> re-importing the frames when we buy them and are subject to the fee being 
>>> based on their retail price. For Riv, the tariffs they pay are based on the 
>>> container value of the frames/completes ordered from Taiwan and then passed 
>>> on to us as customers.
>>>
>>> Taylor, I'm sorry that you seem to be the first one here to experience a 
>>> hang up! Thanks for letting all of us know what's going on, it's super 
>>> helpful!
>>>
>>> - Drew who's wondering why he works in Import/Export...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 8:07:50 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't tariffs based on the wholesale price 
>>>> ? 
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 7:44:18 AM UTC-4 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow sooo is that like an extra $600?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 23:15 Taylor Kurosaki <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The listed tariff with any of the bicycle frame-adjacent codes is 
>>>>>> 30%. This is total madness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:53 PM, Mike Rossi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ouch. According to the newest HTS website, it looks like the code is 
>>>>>> 8714912000. That’s for bicycle frames, and forks totaling over $600.
>>>>>> But, double check that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2025, at 8:44 PM, Bernard Duhon <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any idea what the tarrif might be?? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Scott G.
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2025 7:09 PM
>>>>>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: IRe: 2025 Atlantis pre-sale
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTS codes link
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have fun or hire a lawyer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://rulings.cbp.gov/search?term=bicycle%20frame&collection=ALL&sortBy=RELEVANCE&pageSize=30&page=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This not legal advice,  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the message is covered under the Papal Encyclical of 1541.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 7:41:18 PM UTC-4 [email protected] 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be aware, my Blue Lug Atlantis frameset is now stuck in US customs! 
>>>>>> The Trump tariffs are real and it's no joke that the "importer" pays the 
>>>>>> tariffs, not the seller. I just got off the phone with FedEx and they 
>>>>>> are 
>>>>>> supposedly sending me a form to be able to clear customs, and 
>>>>>> ostensibly, 
>>>>>> to pay an import tariff on the goods.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They require the following information:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Description of the goods: It’s a bicycle frame.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. What are the items made of: made of steel, 100%
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. What is the item used for: it’s a bicycle, it’s made for riding
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. 10 digit harmonized US tariff number?: no idea how to find this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. EIN or SSN of the importer: I guess that's me!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 9:10:45 AM UTC-7 Taylor Kurosaki 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was also incredibly excited for the Atlantis presale and missed out 
>>>>>> on an opportunity to snag a blue Atlantis. I even went to Blue Lug's 
>>>>>> site 
>>>>>> shortly thereafter and was disappointed they had no stock. Yesterday I 
>>>>>> pulled the trigger on a 59cm in Sergio Green from Blue Lug and already 
>>>>>> got 
>>>>>> a FedEx tracking number. Couldn't be more excited and think it's kinda 
>>>>>> cool 
>>>>>> my Atlantis is coming from them. I stopped by their Yoyogi Park store in 
>>>>>> Tokyo last year and I haven't felt so much like a kid in a candy store 
>>>>>> in a 
>>>>>> long time. Thanks to those who alerted us to Blue Lug's stock!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 6:09:04 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I'm talk'n about, Mike. Killer setup. I'm a fan of that 
>>>>>> color way. My wife's platty is in that color and it looks great in 
>>>>>> person. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I run that same outer shell basket bag for my daily commutes. I have 
>>>>>> the larger one, I believe it's called the rack bag, and I used to run it 
>>>>>> on 
>>>>>> a soma porta folder rack, but now I just put it in the larger wald 
>>>>>> basket 
>>>>>> and it's nearly perfect for me. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 10:12:49 PM UTC-4 Mike Gillespie 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok Josh, here’s proof (hopefully). My attempt at capturing the 
>>>>>> metallic nature of the paint job doesn’t come out well with my iPhone so 
>>>>>> these will have to suffice. Today’s ride was just a shake down, so some 
>>>>>> things will probably change at some point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 7:18:05 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike, pics...or it didn't happen.
>>>>>>
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