As someone who's currently in the mire of paying tariffs on containers coming from various countries I can say that some have seemed to reflect the FOB(free on board) price, and some have seemed to reflect a Landed price. Meaning sometimes we're charged for only the cost of the goods, and sometimes we pay 10% on the price of transit. So it'd appear that the agents are kind of figuring it out as they go, but in both cases it was the flat 10% that we're set to incur until July when the "retaliatory tariffs" are done being paused.
Garth, Tariffs are based on whatever the invoice amount is to the end importer. So in this case, Taylor is the importer and FedEx is his broker. Since Blue Lug imports the frames directly from Taiwan we're technically re-importing the frames when we buy them and are subject to the fee being based on their retail price. For Riv, the tariffs they pay are based on the container value of the frames/completes ordered from Taiwan and then passed on to us as customers. Taylor, I'm sorry that you seem to be the first one here to experience a hang up! Thanks for letting all of us know what's going on, it's super helpful! - Drew who's wondering why he works in Import/Export... On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 8:07:50 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't tariffs based on the wholesale price ? > > On Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 7:44:18 AM UTC-4 [email protected] > wrote: > >> Wow sooo is that like an extra $600? >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 23:15 Taylor Kurosaki <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The listed tariff with any of the bicycle frame-adjacent codes is 30%. >>> This is total madness. >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:53 PM, Mike Rossi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Ouch. According to the newest HTS website, it looks like the code is >>> 8714912000. That’s for bicycle frames, and forks totaling over $600. >>> But, double check that. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2025, at 8:44 PM, Bernard Duhon <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Any idea what the tarrif might be?? >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On >>> Behalf Of *Scott G. >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2025 7:09 PM >>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: IRe: 2025 Atlantis pre-sale >>> >>> >>> >>> HTS codes link >>> >>> Have fun or hire a lawyer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://rulings.cbp.gov/search?term=bicycle%20frame&collection=ALL&sortBy=RELEVANCE&pageSize=30&page=1 >>> >>> >>> >>> This not legal advice, >>> >>> the message is covered under the Papal Encyclical of 1541. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 7:41:18 PM UTC-4 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>> Be aware, my Blue Lug Atlantis frameset is now stuck in US customs! The >>> Trump tariffs are real and it's no joke that the "importer" pays the >>> tariffs, not the seller. I just got off the phone with FedEx and they are >>> supposedly sending me a form to be able to clear customs, and ostensibly, >>> to pay an import tariff on the goods. >>> >>> >>> >>> They require the following information: >>> >>> 1. Description of the goods: It’s a bicycle frame. >>> >>> 2. What are the items made of: made of steel, 100% >>> >>> 3. What is the item used for: it’s a bicycle, it’s made for riding >>> >>> 4. 10 digit harmonized US tariff number?: no idea how to find this >>> >>> 5. EIN or SSN of the importer: I guess that's me! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, April 26, 2025 at 9:10:45 AM UTC-7 Taylor Kurosaki wrote: >>> >>> I was also incredibly excited for the Atlantis presale and missed out on >>> an opportunity to snag a blue Atlantis. I even went to Blue Lug's site >>> shortly thereafter and was disappointed they had no stock. Yesterday I >>> pulled the trigger on a 59cm in Sergio Green from Blue Lug and already got >>> a FedEx tracking number. Couldn't be more excited and think it's kinda cool >>> my Atlantis is coming from them. I stopped by their Yoyogi Park store in >>> Tokyo last year and I haven't felt so much like a kid in a candy store in a >>> long time. Thanks to those who alerted us to Blue Lug's stock! >>> >>> On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 6:09:04 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote: >>> >>> That's what I'm talk'n about, Mike. Killer setup. I'm a fan of that >>> color way. My wife's platty is in that color and it looks great in person. >>> >>> >>> >>> I run that same outer shell basket bag for my daily commutes. I have the >>> larger one, I believe it's called the rack bag, and I used to run it on a >>> soma porta folder rack, but now I just put it in the larger wald basket and >>> it's nearly perfect for me. >>> >>> On Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 10:12:49 PM UTC-4 Mike Gillespie wrote: >>> >>> Ok Josh, here’s proof (hopefully). My attempt at capturing the metallic >>> nature of the paint job doesn’t come out well with my iPhone so these will >>> have to suffice. 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