Thanks, Ben. Piaw: Sorry, I misread “Roadini.” Ignore my question.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 2:58 PM Ben Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > Patrick, > > Piaw said "lighter tubing than the *Roadini*" I don't know the tubing > specs of the Roadini, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were thicker than > both the Ram and Roadeo. > > Hugh mentioned a Legolas. There was a beautiful 59 Legolas > <https://groups.google.com/g/bay-area-rivendell-riders/c/Dk3tdsCmc0k/m/irPaimqFAAAJ> > posted on the Bay Area Riv Group a few months back, not sure if it ever > sold or not. And I think you're looking for a 57... But I though I'd > mention it. > > On Tuesday, September 23, 2025 at 1:49:59 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > >> Piaw: I read, or thought I read, that the Roadeo uses .7 .4 .7 at least >> in certain tubes, lighter than the .8. .4 .8 of the Ram. How much lighter >> would you go? >> >> If I recall, you are in the 150 lb range, and even having lost weight I’m >> still a bit north of 160, so I daresay that the Roadeo would have tubes >> light enough for me; that gauge certainly made my 2020 Matthews IGH road >> bike feel faster than my OS thickwalled 2003 road custom which it replaced. >> >> At this point in my life, I think that if I get a derailleur road bike it >> will be a used Rivendell road model of some sort, as I am very familiar >> with the handling of Riv’s road bikes. I don’t want to bother experimenting >> with a new design if I can avoid it. >> >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 2:26 PM Piaw Na <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, September 13, 2025 at 6:23:07 AM UTC-7 R Olson wrote: >>> >>> As far as ride goes, the Roadeo and Crust are most similar. The Roadini >>> is in a different category. The Crust has a lower BB, which I think >>> moderates the ability to accelerate, but makes it very comfortable to >>> ride. .... The Roadini is reminiscint of my Surly LHT actually. It's >>> heavier, more plodding, but extremely comfortable because of the super high >>> stack and long wheelbase. I rode it up and over Vail Pass and it was >>> fine. It was about 26 lbs. >>> >>> >>> The lower BB on the Crust grants you a longer chainstay, which does >>> reduce the responsiveness to hard efforts. The Roadini has an even longer >>> chainstay (45cm), which decreases the responsiveness even further. Having >>> said that, I got my 55cm Roadini down to 10.18kg (22 pounds), and took it >>> on a credit card tour this weekend (photos link: >>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/8mdChvXpQmq82T18TJOwOw.tslzytrIqXahDLrxvw6js0) >>> and it rode great, except for a section where I had to stand up for an >>> extended time on a 14% grade. On a tour you aren't not actively sprinting >>> and trying to stay in the draft of a group so it doesn't matter as much. >>> Neither is that responsiveness important on a long solo ride where you're >>> not actively sprinting. >>> >>> If I were to build a custom road bike I'd go for lighter tubing than the >>> Roadini uses, drop the BB another 5mm, and reduce the chainstay length by >>> 1cm or so (44 or 43.5cm chainstay). 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