> Talk about "touring heavy"!  Note, I said "upright bar" I did not say
> "flat bar".  Looks like he's got a fair amount of drop between the bar
> and the seat height, and for all we know, he could be fairly stretched
> out on that rig, MTB fashion, rather than the sort of upright position
> an albatross or other upright bar promotes.

Well, I will have to get some pictures of my Camping bike Alba bar set
up.  The seat is about two inches higher than the stem and the bars
are angled down.  During the long flat grinds every Midwest tourer is
so used to, I keep my hands on the grips or just above the break
levers.  Climbing I usually have my hands at the end of the grips.
Descents I put my hands at the top of the bars and tuck not all that
unlike what the Tri person is doing in the link above.

On Aug 28, 5:45 pm, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 15:22 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > > Not only do tourists descend -- not that descending in a hurry is such a
> > > big thing for a tourist -- but they also climb.  Here, drop bars have it
> > > all over albatross or any other upright bar.
>
> > Perhaps.  Although here is an experienced tourer who toured the
> > Himalayas where I understand there are more than a few climbs with a
> > flat bar.
>
> > I've nothing against drop bars.  But the evidence suggests tourers can
> > and do use flats and swept backs quite successfully.
>
> >http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=RrzKj&page_id=145281&v=2g
>
> Talk about "touring heavy"!  Note, I said "upright bar" I did not say
> "flat bar".  Looks like he's got a fair amount of drop between the bar
> and the seat height, and for all we know, he could be fairly stretched
> out on that rig, MTB fashion, rather than the sort of upright position
> an albatross or other upright bar promotes.

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