A-bars were fine for climbing.  I found the lack of leverage while holding
the brakes during descents to be fatiguing.


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Garth <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>  Respectfully ...... you are making the errant assumption that to ride
> with an Alba bar(or Moustache or similiar) he/she is riding bolt
> upright. What is bolt upright anyways.... 90 degrees? That's really
> hard to do.  Your actual position on the bike depends on the TT length
> and the stem used.  To be bolt upright you'd need a short TT and a
> short stem, fine for flat city riding I suppose, but it must be
> awkward.
>
> Many pro mtb riders have bars equal to , and higher than saddle
> height. Their body position ranges from about 40-70 degrees .  ....
> the latter being pretty upright .  The key is they have sufficiently
> long top tubes, and they use their levers(arms) to vary their position
> as needed.  There is no difference in flat, upright or drop bars when
> it comes to body angle while riding ...... it depends on setting up
> the bars you use to fit the particular rider.
>
> For me the idea that you need to be hunched over to ride effectively
> has been busted. It may be fine and necessary  for racing, but even
> racers don't ride like this for long periods, and they are paid to go
> fast.
>
> My local riding is very hilly, with grades up to 19%.  Like I said
> earlier, the bar makes no difference uphill, I climb the same as I did
> with drops. Downhill though, I like the Alba better. I used to be all
> about getting the max speed I could. I never noticed my surrounds much
> though in my futile quest for speed. with the Alba bar, I can go full
> tuck if I want to and go fast .... but I prefer to sit up some so I
> can take in the whole scenic picture. I can't tell you how many times,
> in my quest for speed ..... I overlook where I'm at. My mind is so
> concerned with "getting there" I'm deaf, dumb and blind to where I'm
> at. That sucks really. Life is short . .  . . so short.
>
>
> Hill climbing and riding into headwinds is mostly in the head. This is
> very revealing . Is the hill/wind an obstacle or an Allie ? It doesn't
> matter your position, or your physical ability . .. .  you are where
> you are, you do the best you can, and you benefit from the experience,
> period.   All the thoughts of I coulda woulda shoulda ..... and the
> yeah, but ......  are just bologna.
>
>
>
> On Aug 28, 9:37 pm, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I do think it's safe to say a bolt upright position is very poor for
> > climbing, because you cannot use several important muscle groups
> > effectively.
>
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