thanks everyone,

yeah, a no-rise, long stem is why i'm concerned about fitting something like 
the Acorn Handlebar Bag "under" the m-bars, but that'd be an ideal bag i think, 
and might work.

i think a seat-intended bag might fit, using seat tube loop as head-tube loop, 
and seat loop loops for bar loops, if i can figure out a way to keep the bag 
off the brake cable.  maybe the rackaleur or a modified bottle cage - cannot 
quite visualized it.  

the wheels aren't in yet, so i cannot built it all up and make sure this is the 
right stem, but i'll post a pic when it's all together, with bag. 

andrew

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