In my experience, the SKS P-50 is a better match for 650b tires.  I've use them 
with everything from Col de la Vie's to Hetres and Fatty Rumkins and they've 
worked fine...

Steve

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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:49 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: SKS Secrets


Thanks for the thorough reply.
Pending further input, I'm leaning towards the conclusion that P45s
simply don't work very well with 41mm tires.  However, I'll make a
call up to RBW later this morning for their input.
The warp was noticeable right out of the box, with a 15-20 degree
twist.  Even with the greatest clearance I obtained on my front
fenders, the warp still rubbed my tire.
Kevin

On Oct 18, 8:41 am, Jeremy Till <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've installed SKS's a few times (i have a couple of pairs which i put
> on seasonally here in norcal); it's definitely a trick the first time
> but gets easier each time you do it.
>
> In terms of clearances, the fender clearance is determined by two
> things: the width of the fender and the positioning of the frame
> bridges/fork crown.  The rule for adequate clearance with fender size
> is usually tire width+ ~10mm; so if you're using 41mm tires you should
> be shooting for about a 50mm wide fender.  If your SKS's are the "P50"
> model then you should be all right, if they're something smaller like
> the P45 that might be causing some of your clearance issues.  Other
> bleriot owners will have to chime in to tell you whether or not the
> frame can take that combination, I don't have experience with them
> myself.
>
> My usual order of operations is to secure the fork crown mount and
> bridge mounts in the rear, focusing on having a good fender line
> between the bridges, and then sliding the rear of each fender in on
> the stays (leaving all 4 nuts loose) until the fender line matches, at
> which point i secure the bolts.  I will say that I'm probably way less
> picky about fender line than most on here.  Since fenders are kind of
> a functional, seasonal thing for me I don't really care about getting
> them "just so."
>
> In terms of the front of the fender being warped, do you only notice
> it on the bike or or when it's off?  If it's only on the bike, it may
> be that your brakes (i assume you're using the silver sidepulls) are
> deflecting it a little, that happens with the shimano sidepulls on one
> of my bikes.  Again, it's only a few mm so I don't really care about
> it, YMMV.
>
> On Oct 18, 7:49 am, kevin lindsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm in the process of building my Bleriot and thought a pair of SKS
> > fenders would be practical and look great, too.  However, I was
> > naively unprepared for the amount of tweaking, cutting, fitting, and
> > cursing required to install these things on my bike, a circumstance
> > made worse by the almost-nonexistent instructions included with the
> > fenders.  Suffice it to say that I botched the job and have had to
> > order a new set of stays for my second installation attempt.  Couple
> > of questions:
> > a) I have a set of 41mm 650bs and am a little concerned about whether
> > there is enough room for tires this big and a set of fenders on the
> > Bleriot.  I got the rear fender installed more or less OK, but the
> > clearance between it and the tire was really tight.  Am I pushing
> > things to far to expect 41s to fit with fenders?
> > b) Are there any secrets I'm overlooking when installing SKSs?
> > c) The front of my front fender came warped.  Is there a way of
> > unwarping it, or will I have to cut it off?
> > Thanks in advance for any help.
> > Kevin

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