I did a quite scientific study of this earlier this summer. The results: Not much difference.<http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/bike-servations.html> The good news is that both bikes are a lot of fun to ride!
Almost got out for a ride today, but clear spells always seemed to line up with day-care duties. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Yea really............the one pound frame weight diff can't make one > bike a "thudder" (whatever that means) its got to be the combination > of elements that influence ride qualities. As far as performance goes > you'd have to measure it over a long period and have direct > comparisons which is really hard to do. Headwinds, my energy, > hydration etc. there are so many variables that it just seems too > difficult to make comparisons. I have several bikes that range in > weight and components and even type and there seems to be no rhyme or > reason as to why one days "fast ride" happens on the heavy bike and > the next ride on the race bike is actually slower. Actually I don't > even care........ I just want a derailleurless frame that will take > some use buy a middle aged, overweight guy who wants to ride to work > in the spring and summer and not have it prematurely crack somewhere. > A little thicker tubing makes me feel better about my purchase in the > long run.......perhaps its a non issue in the real world as it appears > some of you are riding your QB's loaded with groceries or hopping ruts > and rocks on trails. That's certainly not something I would be doing > but rather up to 96 miles of smooth pavement during the week...... and > the primal diet. > > On Nov 20, 1:46 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > on 11/20/10 5:49 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Just as an added thought.... He is going too far in the "stout" > direction. > > These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at least > > heaveir than they ought to be. I know they don't care about that, but at > > the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight. I > used > > think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it doesn't > > work that way for some reason. My .02, YMMV. > > > > I'd have to dig back into my notes, but I think the resultant frame > > differences between "heavy" tubing and "light" tubing might mean a pound > on > > a ~60 cm frame. > > > > Now, you might be able to come up with a five pound difference in the > full > > build pretty readily, but it's not specifically a frameset issue. > > > > It does seem that the most recent models and revisions have tended > towards > > stouter framesets, but now that those changes have shaken through, we're > > presented with a range of models, which you could think of as "limber" to > > "stout"... > > > > Roadeo/San Marcos - > Hilsen - > Hillborne -> Atlantis -> Hunquapillar - > > > > Bombadil > > > > My Quickbeam seems just a hair more limber than my Hilsen, and they are > both > > right in that range of feel that works for just about everything I like > to > > do. > > > > - Jim > > > > -- > > Jim Edgar > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > > > Three T-shirts Now Available: > > "I've Got Downtube Shifters..." S/S T-shirt > > Cyclocross - "More Cowbell" L/S T-shirt > > "One Cog - Zero Excuses" L/S T-shirthttp://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff > > > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.