...and that any ride you come back from alive is a good ride! On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:51 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I did a quite scientific study of this earlier this summer. The results: Not > much > difference.<http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2010/05/bike-servations.html> > The good news is that both bikes are a lot of fun to ride! > > Almost got out for a ride today, but clear spells always seemed to line up > with day-care duties. > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:01 PM, charlie <charles_v...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Yea really............the one pound frame weight diff can't make one >> bike a "thudder" (whatever that means) its got to be the combination >> of elements that influence ride qualities. As far as performance goes >> you'd have to measure it over a long period and have direct >> comparisons which is really hard to do. Headwinds, my energy, >> hydration etc. there are so many variables that it just seems too >> difficult to make comparisons. I have several bikes that range in >> weight and components and even type and there seems to be no rhyme or >> reason as to why one days "fast ride" happens on the heavy bike and >> the next ride on the race bike is actually slower. Actually I don't >> even care........ I just want a derailleurless frame that will take >> some use buy a middle aged, overweight guy who wants to ride to work >> in the spring and summer and not have it prematurely crack somewhere. >> A little thicker tubing makes me feel better about my purchase in the >> long run.......perhaps its a non issue in the real world as it appears >> some of you are riding your QB's loaded with groceries or hopping ruts >> and rocks on trails. That's certainly not something I would be doing >> but rather up to 96 miles of smooth pavement during the week...... and >> the primal diet. >> >> On Nov 20, 1:46 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> > on 11/20/10 5:49 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> > Just as an added thought.... He is going too far in the "stout" >> direction. >> > These things are way overbuilt and as a result, too heavy, or at least >> > heaveir than they ought to be. I know they don't care about that, but >> at >> > the end of a long day, that is when you start to notice the weight. I >> used >> > think, well, I'll just get 5 lbs lighter and it's a wash, but it doesn't >> > work that way for some reason. My .02, YMMV. >> > >> > I'd have to dig back into my notes, but I think the resultant frame >> > differences between "heavy" tubing and "light" tubing might mean a pound >> on >> > a ~60 cm frame. >> > >> > Now, you might be able to come up with a five pound difference in the >> full >> > build pretty readily, but it's not specifically a frameset issue. >> > >> > It does seem that the most recent models and revisions have tended >> towards >> > stouter framesets, but now that those changes have shaken through, we're >> > presented with a range of models, which you could think of as "limber" >> to >> > "stout"... >> > >> > Roadeo/San Marcos - > Hilsen - > Hillborne -> Atlantis -> Hunquapillar - >> > >> > Bombadil >> > >> > My Quickbeam seems just a hair more limber than my Hilsen, and they are >> both >> > right in that range of feel that works for just about everything I like >> to >> > do. >> > >> > - Jim >> > >> > -- >> > Jim Edgar >> > cyclofi...@earthlink.net >> > >> > Three T-shirts Now Available: >> > "I've Got Downtube Shifters..." 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