The Hilsen and Atlantis have the same geometry, according to their
specs on the Riv site. I don't know if tubing alone could be
responsible for any difference, but wheel/tire size may.

René

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On Jan 3, 2011, at 1:00 PM, William <[email protected]> wrote:

> ***slowly backs away from a thread veering towards the dreaded "trail
> vortex"***
>
> On Jan 3, 12:09 pm, Anne Paulson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The Atlantis doesn't have geometry intended for use with a heavily
>>> loaded handlebar bag.  I can't compare it with a Hilsen, but I can
>>> compare with a Kogswell P/R.
>>
>> So what's the tradeoff? Grant designed the Atlantis's geometry
>> intentionally, to do whatever it is he likes. If he had instead made
>> it like the Kogswell, what would he have been giving up to get the
>> neutral handling with a handlebar bag?
>>
>> --
>> -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> My hovercraft is full of eels
>
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