Actually, if you are going to make a quality home, steel and cement
framing are the better way to go.

The AHH is not a custom bike.  If the buyer wants to spec tubing, find
a builder who will use the tubing of your choice. Many builders,
including those considered among the best, will accept little, if any,
client direction on tubing choice.  Which says all I need to know
about the value of knowing the tubes used for your bike.

On Feb 10, 8:45 am, Peter Pesce <[email protected]> wrote:
> About newenglandbike's wood analogy, I think a more accurate analogy
> might be that knowing the TYPE of wood is important, but knowing the
> BRAND is probably not. You certainly want to know your house is being
> built of a certain grade and species, but whether that wood comes from
> Weyerhauser or Georgia-Pacific makes no difference.
> To bring this back OT, it makes complete sense to want to know that
> your bike is made of good material. In Riv's case, many of us are fine
> with Grant's "trust me, it's good." But I think many riders have a
> legitimate desire to know more. You may have found you like the ride
> of bikes with certain tubing specs (though I doubt one could discern
> between brands with the same specs) and as mentioned above one may
> have specific concerns about durability or other things.
> As I have said before, Riv/Grant only seem to end up creating grief
> for themselves when they share too much - the confusion around the
> multi-ethnic Sam Hillbornes being only the latest example. It goes
> against their "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" message
> - find a builder you trust, trust them (it's good), and just get out
> and ride.
> Maybe Grant is the "Wizard of Walnut Creek"? ;-)
>
> -Pete

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