Lots of guys in the MTB world have been running the above mentioned SS freehubs for years and think poeople like us are nuts for using freewheels to achieve dishlessness.
Also, surefire way to revive an IRD hub http://www.interlocracing.com/faq_warr.html send it back for a new one, they need to know if their stuff is failing Rob On Feb 14, 7:57 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh, and I'd never heard of that approach being implemented. But I've always > felt I'd be happy with 6 speeds, if they I dexed well with quality available > shifters. Alas, I fear that any solution involving 6/9-speed-cassette usage > is even more esoteric than an IRD freewheel. And, in the end, I think my next > step, if I need to take one, is to drop the need for dishlessness and get a > Phil cassette wheel. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > On Feb 14, 2011, at 9:06 PM, rperks <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thomas, > > Out of curiosity, where are you riding that it is so cold? If it is > > that cold and wet you may or may not have problems with diferent free > > hubs freezing up as well, it can and has happened. Some manufacturers > > go as far as selling their own greases / oils partially for these > > reasons. If money were not the object, and wheel strentght is > > paramount, you could look into some of the mountain bike single speed > > hubs: King, Hope and DT all have single speed free hubs that will let > > you run the back 6 cogs of a 9sp casette. These hubs all can be built > > up dishless, and will index as well since it is a casette. Each has > > some pros and cons, like stee vs Al freehub bodies, color options or > > disc brake hole to ignore, but worth a look. If I burn out on > > freewheels that is the direction I am heading. > > > Rob > > > On Feb 14, 6:20 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> That strength-comparison is based on the axle being the weak component in > >> the hub. With Phil hubs (and some others too, I'd guess) the axle is so > >> over-built that even in the case of the freewheel the axle simply isn't > >> likely to fail, even under the likes of me! > > >> So the idea is that uneven spoke tension rises to the top of the pile of > >> compromises one would like to mitigate/eliminate in the built wheel. So > >> reduced dish, as available with an IRD-style Phil FW hub when compared to > >> a Phil cassette hub, becomes a more valuable component of the wheel than a > >> strengthened axle. > > >> And yes, I have bent a Shimano axle and ruined a Deore hub that way. One > >> of my failed wheels. > > >> Yours, > >> Thomas Lynn Skean > > >> On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:57 PM, JoelMatthews <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole > >>>> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle > >>>> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this > >>>> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub? > > >>> That is what I have heard as well. Obviously I have no problem with > >>> FW hubs - I've never even owned a set of cassette hubs - but always > >>> thought maybe I was giving up some strength to the people riding on > >>> those new fangled thangs. > > >>> On Feb 14, 5:59 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean > > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> Generally, the 3-people-who-actually-know-these-things that I contacted > >>>>> all implied or stated outright that a wheel built around a Phil Wood > >>>>> IRD-style FW hub would be stronger than one built with a cassette hub, > >>>>> all else equal. > > >>>> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole > >>>> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle > >>>> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this > >>>> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub? I must admit that I am > >>>> skeptical of this 3-person claim, but I am open to enlightenment. > >>>> (Ommmmm ....) > > >>>> As to Phil track hubs, I learned today that the bearings on my 2Xf > >>>> fixed Phil are fine after almost 11K miles: the roughness was the > >>>> not-fully-tightened spacer. > > >>>> Patrick "no dish, no worries" Moore > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text > >>> - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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