I'm with you!  Scary, especially since I ride soooo many hills and grades. Lots 
of braking.  





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From: Sean Whelan <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, December 7, 2011 10:35:17 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure

All of this talk has me suddenly worrying about what my many-year old rims with 
thousands of miles on them would look like in profile when hack-sawed.

I think this thread might jump start the Christmas Wheelset sales rush.

I, for one, am thinking about it rather seriously.

Thanks,
Sean


--- On Tue, 12/6/11, Grant Petersen <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Grant Petersen <[email protected]>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Near-Catastrophic Rim Failure
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 2:08 AM
> Many of you will remember, and all of
> you can relate to Keith
> Bontrager's maxim from the late '80s:
> 
> Light Strong Inexpensive: Pick Two
> 
> It works to some extent with all bike parts, but even IT
> can't come to
> the rescue when the thing is just too light.
> 
> Do you know the thickness of the braking surface on a
> typical road
> rim? It's about 1.2mm. Some are 1.1. That's what fails when
> rims wear
> out and blow out. Well...1.1 or 1.2mm looks like nothing,
> which you
> consider the abrasion they're subject to and can't possibly
> avoid.
> (Disc brakes have their own set of problems, so let's stay
> on track.)
> 
> It used to be common practice to inspect brake pads AND
> rims, but
> raise you hand if you can remember the last time you did
> that.
> 
> How much should a non-racing 700c rim weigh? How thick
> should the
> braking surface be, and how tall? How wide should it be?
> Reasonable answers,  kind of, could be: Weight: 500g.
> Thickness of
> braking surface: 2.5mm. Height: 11mm. Width: 24mm.
> But a rim with those specs would weigh about 800g. I
> believe this
> because we're having a NOBS rim made to our specs, and it
> has 1.6mm
> braking surface, 10.5mm brake surface height, is 25.4 (1)
> mm wide, and
> weighs about 650g. It's wider than 24, but way thinner than
> 2.5, and
> the 10.5<11. I think this is a totally reasonable rim,
> in every way. I
> wanted 2mm of braking surface, but that would have meant
> zero buyers,
> so we settled on the world-record 1.6, bringing the weight
> down to a
> near world record 650g, and even though I think it's a
> perfectly
> fantastic rim for general nonracing use---touring, trails,
> commuting,
> all purpose riding when there's not a timer or a finish
> line with a
> banner---I believe we'll end up selling it mostly to guys
> who weigh
> 300 pounds and are sick and tired of wheel
> problems...because most
> riders like the idea of stout stuff, but don't really want
> the weight
> that comes with it.
> We'll continue to offer other rims....but this new rim will
> be the way
> to go when you truly, really, want a durable rim and
> wheel.
> (Anyway....the new stouty won't be available for many
> months).
> 
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