My butt has found happiness on the Berthoud touring saddles, FWIW. I believe both Wallingford and René Herse offer a 6 month return period, so you may want to try them I you want to keep the leather saddle and be comfortable at the same time.
All my bikes now have them. René > > Fwiw, my experiences with Brooks saddles is the same as yours. I went back to Flites and Turbos. > > Patrick Moore > Typed with two thumbs on my > iPhone > > On Jan 1, 2012, at 9:51 PM, "Bill M." <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Patrick, >> >> I am lucky enough to have both a Calfee Tetra Pro and a 1995 Riv Road >> Standard. The Calfee is lighter by several pounds, and feels more >> responsive and racy. The first time I rode it up a short 8% climb >> (the only 'hill' within 20 miles of my house) I was astonished at the >> gear I used, a couple or three cogs higher than I was used to using. >> That evens out on a longer climb, of course, but the Calfee really >> jumps when I try to crank up some speed. I also find I have fewer >> problems with hand numbness on the Calfee despite the bars being a >> couple of cm lower. I credit that to a different fit, the compact >> bars on the Calfee vs. Noodles on the Riv, and the Brooks on the Riv >> vs. the modern saddle on the Calfee. On the Brooks I'm always hunting >> for that magic adjustment that will keep me in place without hand >> pressure, but not squish my softer bits. I may never find it. Too >> bad, the Brooks looks so good on the dark green Riv. >> >> I bought the Calfee frame slightly used for about 1/3 the price of a >> new one, or 1/2 the price of a new Roadeo. For that price it was a no- >> brainer. I use it strictly for club rides where I will be pushing >> myself hard, and don't carry more gear than will fit in my jersey >> pockets. I's a great bike for that kind of behavior. >> >> The Riv is currently outfitted quasi-Passhunter style, with low >> gearing (46/30 x 11/32) and 32 mm Rando Hypers (they *barely* fit). I >> ride it when I'm out solo, and have a more relaxed attatude. The >> Riv's drivetrain and wheels should eventually move over to a Rawland >> Nordavinden that will handle the bigger rubber with some room for >> error, and the Riv will revert to use as a fixed gear, maybe with an >> S3X IG hub. >> >> Bill >> >> On Jan 1, 1:32 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Several listers have mentioned Calfee. Maybe this would be a place where a >>> CF bike would be appropriate. I'd love to hear comparos of Calfees with >>> other, more Rivendellian models. >>> >>> Tho' I fear to hear what a Calfee costs ... >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:23 PM, robert zeidler <[email protected] >wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> It's a nice problem to have. >>>> When I went that route, I went Calfee (gasp!) >>> >>>> RGZ >>> >>>> On Sunday, January 1, 2012, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hardly have sold the Herse and I am salivating at the thought of >>>> something new. What I need, I say, *need*, is a gofast multispeed bike >>>> (with coasting capability); no gd fenders, racks -- I've got plenty of >>>> bikes that will take fenders, racks and loads. This would be for fair >>>> weather, no-load, cycling-kit-wearing (but wool kit), lightweight rides. No >>>> tire fatter than 28 and 26 acceptable. >>>>> Now I am sure that the Roadeo is a better bike and I know that fender >>>> and 32 mm clearance won't take from its speed; but the R would run upward >>>> of $4K minimum built with used parts, and I would hope to find a RB1 or >>>> similar classic for less. >>>>> I want something that is fast to accelerate, climbs well, corners >>>> "intuitively" and that will well fit a long torso and short limbs. >>>>> Perhaps I ought to convert my 1999 650C Joe Starck fixie custom to a >>>> gearie (having converted my '03 Curt gearie to a fixed commuter). Actually, >>>> now that I think of that, this might make sense -- unless I convert the '99 >>>> to a trike. >>>>> Seriously, Rodeo or RB1 or clone? >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>> Albuquerque, NM >>>>> For professional resumes, contact >>>>> Patrick Moore, ACRW >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
