You mean tubular not tubeless, Peter.

- David G
 On May 23, 2012 7:25 PM, "Peter Morgano" <[email protected]> wrote:

> All this tubeless talk reminds me, i have a set of 700c tubeless wheels
> that came off an old Stowe of mine. I cant see ever using them, anyone want
> them for say $30 bucks? They defintely need new tires and glue, shimano 600
> hubs with small block cluster. Why so cheap you ask? Because they were
> included with the bike, I am never gonna use them and if someone wants them
> shipped it is gonna cost a bit I figure. Local pickup in Brooklyn for same
> price though. Sorry to hijack this thread, but thought I would give it a
> shot to clear out some space in the basement.
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Bill M. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> To me, road tubeless has most of the disadvantages of both clinchers and
>> tubulars, without enough benefits.  Clinchers with tubes are easy to
>> service, easily available at many price points, and come in a wide range of
>> widths and casings.  Tubulars aren't cheap and take some time and care to
>> glue up, but allow for lighter wheels, including carbon rims with a much
>> greater safety margin than carbon clinchers, ride more comfortably for a
>> given width, and don't pinch flat easily.  Road tubeless requires tires
>> that are not easily available locally for most of us, aren't cheap, have
>> few choices, require clincher rims that aren't as light as tubulars, can be
>> a pain to get mounted and sealed, are a mess to deal with if a repair is
>> needed on the road, and won't quite ride like tubulars.
>>
>> If I had the cash to spend, I'd rather ride some light carbon tubular
>> wheels (ideally with disc brakes), use Tufo tape for mounting, and carry a
>> little bottle of sealant than mess with tubeless.  I don't, so alloy rims,
>> clinchers and tubes are where I plan on being for quite a while to come.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:08:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 23, 12:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I'd also be curious to see how road tubeless improve on the speed and
>>> >"feel" of racing tires, but as someone pointed out, these are for now
>>> >all 700c.
>>>
>>> what kind of racing tires?  i have a friend who rides a Hutchinson
>>> road tubeless wheelset and he likes it quite a bit.  not far from a
>>> tubular in terms of feel, but definitely stiffer casings.  it's too
>>> bad that "road" tubeless hasn't really taken off - granted, it's not
>>> as user-friendly and "low-pressure performance" is still kind of
>>> anathema with the roadie set.  And a lot of racers have already
>>> invested in tubular wheelsets (sealant works in tubulars too).  still,
>>> it'd be nice to see a smattering of road UST type options.
>>
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