Ah,  I really don't know anything about them so I will take your word on
it.
On May 23, 2012 9:19 PM, "David Yu Greenblatt" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> You mean tubular not tubeless, Peter.
>
> - David G
>  On May 23, 2012 7:25 PM, "Peter Morgano" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> All this tubeless talk reminds me, i have a set of 700c tubeless wheels
>> that came off an old Stowe of mine. I cant see ever using them, anyone want
>> them for say $30 bucks? They defintely need new tires and glue, shimano 600
>> hubs with small block cluster. Why so cheap you ask? Because they were
>> included with the bike, I am never gonna use them and if someone wants them
>> shipped it is gonna cost a bit I figure. Local pickup in Brooklyn for same
>> price though. Sorry to hijack this thread, but thought I would give it a
>> shot to clear out some space in the basement.
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Bill M. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> To me, road tubeless has most of the disadvantages of both clinchers and
>>> tubulars, without enough benefits.  Clinchers with tubes are easy to
>>> service, easily available at many price points, and come in a wide range of
>>> widths and casings.  Tubulars aren't cheap and take some time and care to
>>> glue up, but allow for lighter wheels, including carbon rims with a much
>>> greater safety margin than carbon clinchers, ride more comfortably for a
>>> given width, and don't pinch flat easily.  Road tubeless requires tires
>>> that are not easily available locally for most of us, aren't cheap, have
>>> few choices, require clincher rims that aren't as light as tubulars, can be
>>> a pain to get mounted and sealed, are a mess to deal with if a repair is
>>> needed on the road, and won't quite ride like tubulars.
>>>
>>> If I had the cash to spend, I'd rather ride some light carbon tubular
>>> wheels (ideally with disc brakes), use Tufo tape for mounting, and carry a
>>> little bottle of sealant than mess with tubeless.  I don't, so alloy rims,
>>> clinchers and tubes are where I plan on being for quite a while to come.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:08:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On May 23, 12:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I'd also be curious to see how road tubeless improve on the speed and
>>>> >"feel" of racing tires, but as someone pointed out, these are for now
>>>> >all 700c.
>>>>
>>>> what kind of racing tires?  i have a friend who rides a Hutchinson
>>>> road tubeless wheelset and he likes it quite a bit.  not far from a
>>>> tubular in terms of feel, but definitely stiffer casings.  it's too
>>>> bad that "road" tubeless hasn't really taken off - granted, it's not
>>>> as user-friendly and "low-pressure performance" is still kind of
>>>> anathema with the roadie set.  And a lot of racers have already
>>>> invested in tubular wheelsets (sealant works in tubulars too).  still,
>>>> it'd be nice to see a smattering of road UST type options.
>>>
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