I hinted at that earlier, but noooooo...

On 11/8/2012 2:53 PM, Kelly wrote:
Can't believe this thread is still open... Things like below will turn this ugly very quickly. oops.. turned it ugly.

Kelly




On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:47:04 AM UTC-6, Seth Vidal wrote:

    Steven,
     I think you're committing the fallacy of the golden mean.
    Absolutism has a place in our society. Let me give you some examples:

    I absolutely believe that all adult americans should have the
    ability to gain the tax and probate advantages they can get
    through marriage regardless of their race, gender, religious
    beliefs or sexual orientation.

     I believe anyone pushing to withhold those rights from folks in
    our society is a bigot and should be shunned.

    I absolutely believe that all women should have control over their
    own bodies.

    I believe anyone advocating for them losing control of their own
    bodies is Akin(haha, get it?) to a rapist and should be punished
    as such.

    Those are things I absolutely believe. You let me know when I'm
    being irrational, provided you can present logic as such.

    -sv



    On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Steven Frederick
    <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:

        My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike
        commute
        route so I just stopped in on the way to work.  I was not the
        first
        person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first
        person
        come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd
        applauded.

        There's no shortage of "irrational opinions," at the extremes
        of both
        sides.  My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus
        builders to move us forward and soon.  Absolutism has no place
        in a
        democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way,
        every
        time.  Solving problems and finding solutions most every one
        can live
        with are the very definition of "politic."

        Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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