Interesting: I have always used the black powdercoated chomoly versions: these are fillet brazed, with brazing that looks much neater than the blobby welds on the stainless steel ones.
Agree with Jim: Tubus + Ortlieb = great value:dollar ratio. I have Packer Pluses and Packer Sports. FWIW, and Segwaying: for dollar:value in grocery panniers, I have to recommend Banjo Bros Market Pannier, at about $45/each. Far better than the typical grocery bag pannier at this price level, tho' -- had I the $$ -- I'd seek out something made with a more tightly woven fabric and straps. But for the price, and the convenience of being able to simply drop a stuffed paper grocery sack into the pannier without fighting straps, buckles, pockets, what have you, I am content. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
