On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 15:29 -0700, Jan Heine wrote:
> The handlebars on the 1980 René Herse are Cinelli 64s. As Matthew
> pointed out, Rivendell used to sell these as the "Dream Bars". 

Not so.  The Nitto 176 is the Dream Bar.  I have 5 of them in service.
The Cinelli 64 is very different: for one thing, it's a shallow drop,
while the 176 is a medium drop; also, the ramp on the Cinelli is much
steeper.  I used one for 15 years on my Spectrum, and still have it.



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