Steve P: I used the term "undersized" in reference to tubing because the smaller tubing diameter has become nonstandard over the last 20 or so years. You can switch it around and refer to that which is the current norm as "oversized" if you prefer, but that seems like too much effort swimming upstream, not to mention meaningless when the old standards are pretty much extinct. I vote that we trash all these judgmental words and just use numbers.
I would add that our physical preferences arise in our heads. If we're predisposed to identifying with Jan's personality and attitude, then we'll bring that predisposition with us when we ride the bikes Jan likes. If we are more in tune with GP's style, then, gosh darn it, that Riv is the best bike one could imagine. As for the Surly LHT, I ride one almost daily. It suits me. It's tough and as fast as I care to be on a bicycle. I can beat the Hell out of it, and if it somehow doesn't survive, I can buy a new one this afternoon without losing much sleep. But yes, I also sell the LHT, and often I'm asked about its weight. I always tell people that if weight is a concern, even an imaginary one, the LHT isn't for them. But hey, the Cross-check is kinda the same, but lighter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.