Of course, Jim happens to be my local wheel building "guru".  I have built
one wheel, with Jim's help/close supervision.  Might do another one
someday.

Also realize Rich makes great wheels.  If I didn't have Jim nearby, would
almost certainly get mine from him.


Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I have to half agree with Jim. Its like cooking, you can probably teach
> anyone to cook anything but the true masters have something innate that
> they bring to the equation. I have had wheels from Rich and Longleaf, both
> built with care and made to last.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Dan McNamara <djmcnam...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> There is a great section on wheel building in "Ride of My Life." Having
>> watched Rich build a couple of wheels I think that section really captured
>> some of the magic that goes into a pro built wheel. I have built my share
>> of wheels over the years and although true and round they never came close
>> to wheels  what from Rich, Gravy or Longleaf have provided.
>>
>> There might be some sections from the bbc documentary based on that book
>> available online.
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> -Marin
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2013, at 3:49 PM, IanA <attew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree that is important to support the artisans and tradesmen,
>> especially in fields where mass production slowly erode our expectations of
>> quality.  But, what is it about Rich's process that makes a wheel never run
>> out of true?  If a builder is using quality and appropriate components with
>> correctly calculated spoke length and gradually builds the wheel to create
>> balanced ideal uniform tension throughout, relying on a tensionometer and
>> dishing gauge, what is the difference between one builder and another if
>> discipline in these areas is followed?
>>
>> I've read of some builders who use some method of securing the spoke
>> nipple - Blue Loctitie or linseed oil, whereas others might think of this
>> step as unnecessary, but perhaps this step makes a significant difference
>> in certain situations (more weight/more aggressive riding style?).  Why
>> does the otherwise accomplished amateur mechanic find wheel building to be
>> any more intimidating than installing brake levers?  If there is mechanical
>> sympathy, should the wheel build be straightforward enough with the correct
>> tools.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:19:03 PM UTC-6, Tony wrote:
>>>
>>> It is the business of the wealthy man,
>>> To give employment to the artisan.
>>> (Last two lines from a four line poem by Hilaire Belloc)
>>>
>>> I was fortunate to attend the first hour and a half of a multi-hour
>>> lecture/demonstration Rich gave a couple of years ago at RBW. (I had to
>>> leave to catch a plane). Anyway, it's evident the man knows and loves what
>>> he does and can speak authoritatively about it. Yeah, having something else
>>> NOT to worry about is worth supporting.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:14:43 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip>.  I stopped making my own wheels long ago.  It's not my passion,
>>>> not my talent, so let the masters do their thing and I gladly support them
>>>> :)  Joe Young is another wheel artist .
>>>>
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