Maybe, but I was fitted by Rivendell at Rivendell. And to be fair, it is borderline, but I'm now using the Kalloy setback seat post with a 9 cm stem and don't consider that too extreme. I am comfortable, but Albatross handle bars could be in my future to dial in that last bit of comfort.
Things can quickly get very convoluted it the fitment arena; for me anyway. See below: I used the zero setback seat post in an effort to alleviate a nasty puss infected saddle sore that just wouldn't go away. But first I tried bicycle shorts, no bicycle shorts with quick dry underwear, padded underwear, and all sorts of creams and lotions. Nothing worked. I already had the Thomsom zero set back seat post and figured I'd give it a try because it had dual screw micro adjustment. When that didn't help, I blamed the Brooks B-17, and replaced it with a Specialized plastic saddle. This did the trick and I could feel the saddle sore(s) heal as I rode. I left well enough alone for a while until one day I got a bug up my butt to swap the 10cm handlebar stem with a 9cm off another bike. This did shorten the reach and put me in a considerably more upright position. It is amazing the difference 1cm can make. But after one week (approx. 200 miles) my sit bones were hurting so bad in this upright position I had to get rid of the Specialized saddle. I figured I'd give the B-17 another try. So off came the Specialized saddle with seat post attached and on went the B-17. I used the Kalloy setback seat post because I didn't want to mess with the adjustment on the Specialized/Thomson combination. I just set this aside on the work bench. The Brooks is working very well. I'm still making small adjustments but have high hopes. One change I did make, and I think this could have been the cause of my saddle sores all along, is I lowered the saddle just a bit. I'd never used a saddle height formula before in all my life and never had problems. But when I got Sam I wanted everything perfect so I did a little research and found the following two: Saddle Height = PBH minus 11" or PBH * 0.883 Using these calculations my saddle height should be 80.5 or 80.7945 respectively. I now have it set at 78.8 and show no signs of recurring saddle sores. Matt On Friday, August 30, 2013 10:18:47 PM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote: > > Matt, w/out knowing much else, if you have to use a zero setback post > and a real short stem to get comfortable, I'm guessing the frame is > too big. > > On 8/30/13, hangtownmatt <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > I agree, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Sam Hillborne was optimally > > designed for the Albatross handlebars. > > > > Matt > > > > On Friday, August 30, 2013 8:13:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > >> > >> > >> I think Grant's designs favor a butt-back position, for handling as > well > >> as comfort and power. At least my Rivs, including the Sam HIll, all > seemed > >> > >> to handle best when I have my saddle rearward -- the long stays would > >> indicate this, too. > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 8:26 AM, hangtownmatt > >> <[email protected]<javascript:> > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> As I was riding to work this morning I remembered I made another > change. > >>> > >>> After I replaced the stem with the shorter one, it wasn't long before > I > >>> realized that my current saddle was not going to work in the more > upright > >>> > >>> position. So I removed the seat along with the zero setback seat > post, > >>> something I had added before to reduce stretch, and replaced it with > the > >>> > >>> original Kalloy set back seat post and Brooks B-17. So, in all > honesty, > >>> it > >>> was the combination of a shorter stem and a set back seat post that > >>> changed > >>> the handling characteristics. Not surprising. Hence this threads > title > >>> > >>> change. > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* > >> Certified Resume Writer > >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > >> [email protected] <javascript:> > >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > >> > >> Albuquerque, NM > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javascript:>. > > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > -- > Cheers, > David > > "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
