Oops. Meant to add this in my previous post. Pics of the 
mounting: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634073536262/

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:54:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Hey Kip,
>
> Yes. See here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9725707307/.
>
> Does it limit access? A bit, but not practicably. As the Large Saddlesack 
> sags its wings, I have to lift it up to get things in and out, but that's 
> not much of a bother, and when I use them, I only put stuff in them that 
> I'll need once at my campsite. Everything I need on the trail is in the 
> Saddlesack.
>
> Mounting: I use Irish straps (the short ones) to 1) anchor the panniers to 
> the front of the rack; 2) Anchor the front and back of the Saddlesack to 
> the rack, threading the strap through the leather of the Saddlesack then 
> through the gap in the panniers and their top and under the rack. Once 
> tightened, I've never had to tighten them on a trip, but they all easily 
> come off. I don't know, but imagine the irish straps are easier than zip 
> ties.
>
> Enjoy your family trips!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:14:04 AM UTC-6, Kip Otteson wrote:
>>
>> I've been thinking about putting either Sackville Panniers or Frost River 
>> Panniers on my Nitto Big Back Rack and then putting the large saddlesack on 
>> top of it.  I think I've seen this setup before and it would work for me in 
>> my role of chief load carrier for the family camping trips.  
>>
>> I thought I could get away with just the saddlesack and a front shopsack 
>> and front panniers, towing a BOB trailer, but I think I need a little more 
>> space.  I think the Carsick Panniers look excellent and I'd like to replace 
>> my Maddens with them up front.  I love the saddlesack and don't want to 
>> give that up at all.  I have all my tools where I want them and I can 
>> answer my phone while riding.  The zip pockets that face the rider are very 
>> helpful.
>>
>> It seems like where one zip ties the saddlesack to the rack, through the 
>> slots on the bottom, they could be strapped to either of the panniers I 
>> mentioned above.  However, I was wondering how much they would interfere 
>> with loading the bags up due to the overhang of the saddlesack?  Anybody 
>> have any thoughts or experience?
>>
>> We plan on doing a tour of Cambodia this summer and down the Pacific 
>> Coast the following year.  The wife and six year old with be on a tandem 
>> and my 10 year old is on his own bike with panniers.  My wife has enough on 
>> her plate just negotiating the youngster and her reluctant pedaling without 
>> bothering with luggage.
>>
>> Kip Otteson
>> Chiang Mai, Thailand
>>
>

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