After reading the other correspondence, including clarificatory and
additional data from the initial poster, my suggestion is that he ought to
get a good bike fit examination. I've never used Albatrosses, but from all
I've read from maker/seller and users, they usually require a longer, and
not a shorter stem.

Second: KOPS is a good starting point, but it is not at all a rule.

Third: Jeff from Australia gives good advice. You might read the classic
fit instructions on Peter Jon White's website (Google it).

Lastly, there is much more involved in comfortable fit -- that is, one
where your butt is comfortable on the saddle, your legs don't bog when
pedaling, and your torso holds up your torso, bust, head, and shoulders
comfortably so that you don't rely on your hands to hold you upright --
than merely sitting more upright. (And there is more than one way to get an
upright postion, for that matter.)

Again, I'd get the advice of a good fitter, or at least talk at length to
someone at Rivendell about what is wrong with your present setup.

An aside: I have long wondered if bolt upright positions, as on British
bobby bikes and the Dutch utility bikes, are not as comfortable as they are
because of the very shallow seat angle which allows high and close bars
without sacrificing a physiologically necessary bend between hips and
torso.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, ceteris paribus. But, also, with the same stem, your bar will also be
> a wee bit closer -- allowing you to sit just a wee bit more upright.
>
> And, no one says you can't get a higher stem.
>
> Patrick "steer-ER tube, steer-ER tube, steer-ER tube" Moore, who observes
> the terminological proprieties and conventions in ABQ, NM.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> T or F:
>>
>> If I trade my 55 Bleriot for a 53 Bleriot, will I lose a little bar
>> height-ability in relation to saddle height?
>>
>> I am thinking yes, because while I can keep the stem at maxheight on both
>> bikes, my 71 cm saddle height will sit me higher above the TT on the
>> smaller frame a little, effectively lowering the bar height?
>>
>> I like to keep my Albas at Max height for Bolt upright sitting.
>>
>> Of course, if the 53 steer tube was cut higher than the one on my my 55
>> that would add height.
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