Is there anyone in the area with a 53 Bleriot you could test ride? Its just
so hard to "imagine" what a shorter stem or smaller frame would feel like,
ya know? I personally went through 4 different Rivendell frames until I
found one that fit me. In retrospect should have just taken a bus out to
Harris Cyclery to do some test rides but you live and learn.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

> After reading the other correspondence, including clarificatory and
> additional data from the initial poster, my suggestion is that he ought to
> get a good bike fit examination. I've never used Albatrosses, but from all
> I've read from maker/seller and users, they usually require a longer, and
> not a shorter stem.
>
> Second: KOPS is a good starting point, but it is not at all a rule.
>
> Third: Jeff from Australia gives good advice. You might read the classic
> fit instructions on Peter Jon White's website (Google it).
>
> Lastly, there is much more involved in comfortable fit -- that is, one
> where your butt is comfortable on the saddle, your legs don't bog when
> pedaling, and your torso holds up your torso, bust, head, and shoulders
> comfortably so that you don't rely on your hands to hold you upright --
> than merely sitting more upright. (And there is more than one way to get an
> upright postion, for that matter.)
>
> Again, I'd get the advice of a good fitter, or at least talk at length to
> someone at Rivendell about what is wrong with your present setup.
>
> An aside: I have long wondered if bolt upright positions, as on British
> bobby bikes and the Dutch utility bikes, are not as comfortable as they are
> because of the very shallow seat angle which allows high and close bars
> without sacrificing a physiologically necessary bend between hips and
> torso.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Patrick Moore <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Yes, ceteris paribus. But, also, with the same stem, your bar will also
>> be a wee bit closer -- allowing you to sit just a wee bit more upright.
>>
>> And, no one says you can't get a higher stem.
>>
>> Patrick "steer-ER tube, steer-ER tube, steer-ER tube" Moore, who observes
>> the terminological proprieties and conventions in ABQ, NM.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> T or F:
>>>
>>> If I trade my 55 Bleriot for a 53 Bleriot, will I lose a little bar
>>> height-ability in relation to saddle height?
>>>
>>> I am thinking yes, because while I can keep the stem at maxheight on
>>> both bikes, my 71 cm saddle height will sit me higher above the TT on the
>>> smaller frame a little, effectively lowering the bar height?
>>>
>>> I like to keep my Albas at Max height for Bolt upright sitting.
>>>
>>> Of course, if the 53 steer tube was cut higher than the one on my my 55
>>> that would add height.
>>>
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