Definitely ride mid-foot on the grip kings - seems to be what they were 
made for - but the point I was making is riding forefoot on shoes without 
support induces strain in my foot.  Our feet are obviously different.  I 
have no strain with the right shoes for the job.  I answered Garth's 
question to the best of my ability - Merrills have all the support I need 
for long and strenuous rides.  

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:14:51 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> You're using a mid-foot stance, Ron? Because if I always rode a forefoot 
> stance, I'm not sure I'd like it as much. I suspect the difference is not 
> the shape of our feet, but the reality that I go barefoot as much as 
> possible and so have strong muscles and tendons (they took 3 years of 
> barefooting to reach the point they are at now). I'm 12 EEEE, but not flat 
> footed. Though with a mid-foot stance, there is no energy going into 
> straining my foot, it all transfers to the pedal, mostly through the 
> outside of the foot.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:29:13 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Deac, I tried riding basic tennis shoes in my toe clips on my go-fast. 
>>  It was no problem for short rides, but for long rides or strenuous climbs, 
>> my arches and heels would be hurting for a day.  This is because the shoe 
>> flexes and some of your energy is going into straining your foot.  With 
>> proper support, you're putting it into the wheel.  I don't know if the same 
>> mechanics apply for wide flat feet, but it's very important for my long 
>> narrow tall feet.  (they measure 13AAA, but I'm usually resigned to size 
>> 12).  
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:23:09 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael and Garth,
>>>
>>> Help me understand the need for a stiff sole? I ride barefoot, with a 
>>> mid foot stance, on VP Vice pedals and have no issues due to flex, and all 
>>> kinds of benefits.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/10077255616/in/set-72157636166222556/
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:10:03 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Ron, is the middle part of the Merrell sandal very stiff ?  If you 
>>>> place your feet on the pedals midfoot, does it bend alot when you stand or 
>>>> does it stay relatively flat ? 
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I saw these @ rei-outlet for $36 if they have your size. 
>>>> http://www.rei.com/product/865008/merrell-mix-master-bound-sport-convertible-sandals-mens-2013-closeout
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:22:22 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Merrell Sport sandals - great arch support (I have ice skate feet with 
>>>>> tall arches) - they weigh nothing and the soles grip Grip Kings in the 
>>>>> rain.  I've been wearing variations on these for a dozen years, hunt them 
>>>>> down in Europe if I must, and always have new shoes in the queue.  
>>>>> http://www.onlineshoes.com/mens-merrell-mix-master-bound-sport-convert-aluminum-p_id281590?adtrack=gpa&term=Men%27s+Merrell+Mix+Master+Bound+Sport+Convert&offer=&device=c&network=g&matchtype=
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  

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