Hmmmm .... so I guess I would deliver my tank to the battlefield, then drive
home and battle remotely, then drive back and pick up my tank ?
:)
- Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Paul Hilton
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TANKS] Re: For those mad scientists on the list
So, with all this "Mad Scientist" talk, it would seem that a true remote
battle is even closer to happening. Imagine a battlefield that none of the
tankers have seen. The only images available are what each tank can
produce, one gunsight, one wide angle. Hits are registered by on-site
scorekeepers...... Wow.
Paul H.
--- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Tyng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "R/C Tank Combat" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: [TANKS] Re: For those mad scientists on the list
>
> A little more searching found this wireless USB server which
> reportedly supports USB video.
>
> http://www.silexamerica.com/sx-2000wg.html
>
> Steve
>
> On Sep 10, 5:44 pm, "Doug Conn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> No, I haven't, but that's a great idea. The Keyspan server won't support
>> USB
>> webcams, but you'd think it would work for servo controllers and the
>> like. I
>> used the Pololu serial servo controller in both vehicles and it's always
>> worked like a champ. I bet their USB version would be just as good.
>>
>> - Doug
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> On Behalf Of Steve Tyng
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:38 PM
>> To: R/C Tank Combat
>> Subject: [TANKS] Re: For those mad scientists on the list
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>> Have you played around with USB servers (http://www.keyspan.com/
>> products/us4a/) accessed over wilan?
>>
>> I could see USB servo controllers (http://www.pololu.com/catalog/
>> product/390) and possibly cameras remotely controlled and/or accessed
>> this way.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Sep 10, 10:41 am, "Doug Conn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Didn't Linksys stop making the NSLU2 ?
>>
>> > I tried using a webcam server for my tank, but it didn't work very
>> > well.
>> To
>> > ensure an uninterrupted video stream, the server would buffer 5-10
>> > seconds
>> > of video before it started streaming. That would introduce the
>> corresponding
>> > amount of latency, so I wouldn't see an event in my video until 5-10
>> seconds
>> > after it actually happened ! Not good for running a real-time tank. I
>> > hope
>> > that the webcam server you found avoids that.
>>
>> > I ended up writing my own video streaming software using the MJPEG
>> > format.
>> > That's a highfalutin way of saying it sent one JPEG image after
>> > another.
>> > When I converted to Microsoft Robotics Developer Studio, I just used
>> > their
>> > webcam service. It does not have significant latency. The more I use
>> MSRDS,
>> > the more I like it. It's made for distributed asynchronous processing,
>> > and
>> > they've built it in a really clever way. You don't need to manipulate
>> > your
>> > own threads and synchronization primitives. Plus, I used the skills I
>> > learned building my tank to enter the RoboChamps competition
>> > (www.robochamps.com). I submitted one challenge so far, but it hasn't
>> > been
>> > judged yet. The competition is great fun. I recommend it.
>>
>> > - Doug
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> > On Behalf Of SteveH
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:02 AM
>> > To: R/C Tank Combat
>> > Subject: [TANKS] Re: For those mad scientists on the list
>>
>> > Yaah, I got a Gumstix too. While they're really neat and tiny, the
>> > hardware expandability is problematic (combining USB and serial and
>> > Ethernet is difficult), and the software is pretty immature for a
>> > system designed for user modification. For example, the stock firmware
>> > won't support either function of their Ethernet/SD card stick without
>> > reconfiguring the system from a serial port (that you can't attach
>> > with the Ethernet/SD stick in place), and in the case of the SD card I/
>> > O, it required rebuilding the kernel and reflashing the CPU. This
>> > problem has remained there over several code releases, too. I'd
>> > expected better from them; they've a way to go yet.
>>
>> > I've since switched to the Linksys NLSU2, a cigarette-pack-sized $100
>> > single-board Linux network appliance that's been hacked to install
>> > OpenEmbedded Linux. This system, while not originally designed for
>> > user modification, supports USB, Ethernet, serial I/O, and has lotsa
>> > prebuilt packages that are easy to install and work right off the bat.
>> > In an hour out of the box, I've got a Webcam server running, and have
>> > the I/O capability needed to use the "Slug" as a robot controller.
>> > This is now my baseline embedded controller. I recommend it highly.
>> > (Linksys, when asked about all the folks repurposing their gadgets,
>> > say in effect that they don't actually support this stuff, but
>> > certainly don't mind. I like their attitude.)
>>
>> > -- Steve H
>>
>> > On Sep 9, 12:25 pm, Aahz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Doug Conn wrote:
>> > > > I looked at Phidget boards for RocketMan and Bad Kitty. I think
>> > > > they
>> are
>> > > > kind of expensive for the functionality you get. I like the
>> > > > Velleman
>> > K8055
>> > > > board. It's very basic and very cheap. When I outgrow that, I've
>> > > > been
>> > > > thinking about one of these:
>>
>> > > >http://www.labjack.com/labjack_u3.php?prodId=53
>>
>> > > I bought and experimented with a Gumstix for computerized control
>> > > system for both tanks and robots. If anyone wanted one used I could
>> > > make
>> > > you a good deal ;)http://www.gumstix.com/
>>
>> > > Aahz.
> >
>
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