thanks for the tip Steve, after looking at it again I think you are
right about the binding under side-load. I will have a poke around for
a better lazy susan, if there's no joy there I will look at the
bearing solution

cheers

Ben


On Jun 22, 1:06 am, Steve Tyng <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cheap lazy susan's aren't very good at taking a side load.  When you
> say you can spin the assembly by hand are you replicating the side
> load your belt is applying to the bearing?  If you do you may find it
> binding.  I used a lazy susan in T047 (but didn't get any good pics of
> the rotate setup).  To keep the lazy susan centered I built a drum
> assembly that was attached to the lazy susan bearing that extended
> into the tank.  Rollers where attached to the underside of the top of
> the hull which kept the assembly centered.  The lazy susan bearing
> bore the weight of the turret and the rollers kept it centered.  This
> pic shows the drum.
>
>    http://rctankcombat.com/tanks/T047/07photo-large.jpg
>
> Maybe Rob can take some more pics of Heidi and upload them to the site
> for a better visual explanation of how Heidi's turret swings.  It's a
> really cool setup!
>
> If side-load binding is causing your problem I'd suggest adapting a
> bit of Cromwell tech to fix it.  Install a 1/2" bolt at the center of
> rotation on your turret base plate that extends into your hull.  The
> bolt will run through a bearing attached to the underside of your
> hull.  Your belt sprocket then attaches to the bolt.  Something like
> in this pic:
>
>    http://rctankcombat.com/tanks/T040/13Cromwell041-large.jpg
>
> In fact, if you do something along these lines you will not have to
> attach the turret to the lazy susan bearing, it would only sit on top
> of it.
>
> Steve Tyng
>
> On Jun 21, 1:56 am, Ben Holko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I started to build the turret and traverse this weekend, and it didn¹t go so
> > well.
>
> > I cut out the base plate for the turret, and the top hull plate that it will
> > sit on. A 12² lazy susan provides the bearing, the base plate and top plate
> > get bolted to that and all was well with that. It had a little more
> > resistance than I had thought it would, but I guess the bearings in these
> > cheap lazy susan¹s leave a bit to be desired.
>
> > I have a 12v geared motor from surplus center 
> > (https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009062005294011&item=5-16...
> > ame=electric ) which I am using (trying) for the traverse. Together with
> > some mini timing belt components from Small Parts Inc (via Amazon). Problem
> > is however that the motor doesn¹t seem to have enough grunt, and the weak
> > point in the link is the timing belt components, the belt is jumping teeth
> > on the sprockets.
>
> > I have reviewed all the build pages on the tanks which detail their traverse
> > systems, and have gained little further inspiration. According to Surplus
> > Center this motor has 48 lb-in of stall torque, most other motors I see have
> > far less than that, can anyone weigh in with the bearing/drive/torque
> > combination that they have found success with?
>
> > PS: also hacked up the exhaust armor guards
>
> >  Exhaust Guards 01.JPG
> > 252KViewDownload
>
> >  Exhaust Guards 02.JPG
> > 324KViewDownload
>
> >  Traverse Failure 01.JPG
> > 184KViewDownload
>
> >  Traverse Failure 02.JPG
> > 210KViewDownload
>
> >  Turret Base.JPG
> > 196KViewDownload
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