no I am not sure, but the way I see it if the input voltage is zero to
the SSR, the load pins should not make a circuit, but it seems once it
does make a circuit, it stays that way

Mike Mane: you can get voltage regulators, in  either kit form or pre-
fab, I'm using one in T067 to drop 24v -> 12v, and then another one to
drop 12v -> 6v. They are rated at certain max amps, heat being the
issue.



On Aug 23, 12:44 pm, Gregory Pwneror <[email protected]> wrote:
> Are you sure it's not the solenoid that's causing your problems?
>
> -Gregory
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Modena <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I just tried seperating the PSU's, powering the logic and SSR off a 6v
> > and the solenoid totally seperate off 12v, same issue, switches on and
> > stays on.
>
> > basically the whole thing was connected to a 6v battery, one lead of
> > the solenoid went to + of a 12v battery, the other solenoid wire went
> > to a load pin on the SSR, the other load pin went to - on the 12v
> > battery.
>
> > when it stays on, the relay is NOT powered at the input, yet it still
> > makes a load circuit, WTF ? how can this happen?
>
> > driving an LED off the same terminals as the SSR input and the LED
> > blinks as expected for the time delay and then switches off, so the
> > 555 seems to be doing its thing; press button, LED comes on, solenoid
> > switches on, time delay expires LED goes off, solenoid stays on, SSR
> > load circuit stays complete
>
> > I'm confused
>
> > On Aug 23, 11:51 am, Mike Mane <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I might as well ask an electrical question myself. What is the
> > > cheapest (or at least simplest) way to reduce the main tank's voltage
> > > X volts to power small, intricate IC's, etc on a circuit that require
> > > <X volts? Is there any way to reduce voltage like this without harming
> > > the circuit or messing up the battery? Is resistance the answer?
>
> > > —Mike "not the electrician" Måne
>
> > > Message sent by way of mobile device
>
> > > On Aug 22, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Don Shankin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Good call, just be careful around those caps
>
> > > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Gregory Pwneror
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > If you need to find a MOSFET look inside an old computer power
> > > > supply, they usually have half a dozen of them inside. They also
> > > > have 1600uf capacitors :)
>
> > > > -Gregory
>
> > > > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Frank Pittelli <
> > [email protected]
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > Don Shankin wrote:
> > > > > Are you talking about MOSFETs?  They're essentially voltage-
> > > > controlled
> > > > > transistors (as opposed to being current controlled).
>
> > > > Yes, there is a new breed of MOSFETs called "self-protected MOSFETs"
> > > > that are specifically designed to be driven from logic levels and that
> > > > protect against all kinds of problems.  For example, see:
>
> > > >        http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/parametrics.do?id=819
>
> > > > The last time I looked (about 6 months ago), they only produced them
> > > > in
> > > > tiny surface mount packages (which are too small for my eyes and
> > > > soldering skills :-)  However, while googling to answer this
> > > > question, I
> > > > see that they are now producing them in good old TO-220 packages, so
> > > > I'll have to see if my normal electronics suppliers stock them as
> > > > well.
>
> > > > The nice thing about this new breed is that (a) they are designed for
> > > > logic level inputs, (b) they protect the logic circuit from load
> > > > problems and (c) they don't need suppression diodes when used with
> > > > inductive loads.  Basically, they are a one package solution for
> > > > switching 4-6A loads.   When I start noodling with circuit designs in
> > > > the winter (the official season for circuit noodling) I plan on
> > > > playing
> > > > with them to see how well they work for my purposes (cheap, durable,
> > > > easy to repair).
>
> > > >        Frank P.
>
> > > > --
> > > > ----------
> > > > Donald Shankin
> > > > Computer Engineering Undergrad
> > > > Blue Marble Security Member
> > > > IEEE Vice Chair, MTU Chapter
> > > > NSBE Telecommunications Chair, MTU Chapter
> > > > CAEL Partner
> > > > (507) 301-2499
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