Yes, it's a Viewloader Charger. I got it cos it was cheap. They sold
me an electronic one cos they had run out of manual ones. That did not
work as well as you would expect- it needed an extra battery (9v) and
never seemed to work properly. Eventually it broke and i have
converted it to work from a central locking motor- seems to work.

Oh and Hi Dave. I live in Surrey which is a Long Way Away. Looking
forward to seeing the potential Tiger- well frankly we can do with the
drivers at the moment!

PS Don't bother Neil- he's working hard on my Hetzer;D

Phil Palmer


On Jan 19, 2:44 pm, Peter Arundel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ebay banned the sale of paintball guns quite a few years back - don't know 
> why. I use a SPYDER gun in the Valentine for two reasons. (1) It's reasonably 
> cheap. (2) Spare parts are readily available. Planet Eclipse have a shop 
> across the road from our Manchester office so I got mine there. Not as cheap 
> as they used to be, however;
>
> http://www.planeteclipse.co.uk/site/estore.asp?show=catsub&sc2=105
>
> You could try a PMI gun because they've been going a long time and spares are 
> plentiful too;
>
> http://www.fatbobspaintball.co.uk/Paintball_Guns-PMI-PMI_Guns/c7_29_9...
>
> I think Phil Palmer has a Viewloader gun for his old etzer - but don't quote 
> me on that. Viewloaders are cheap but not as common as Spyders.
>
> http://www.store.justpaintball.co.uk/paintball-guns/viewloader
>
> Pete.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:09:44 -0800
> > Subject: [TANKS] Re: newbie alert!
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
>
> > Hi Derek
>
> > Thanks for the tip. I have seen another member had a similar problem
> > with his build, an Abrahms? Due to the low profile of the turret. Why
> > hasn't my Tamiya arrived yet =D
>
> > Question for the UK Based chaps. What inexpensive markers are out
> > there? Ebay seems a bit bereft of the markers themselves unless it's
> > the blowpipe versions which I know another member has successfully
> > setup as a semi-auto gun with a servo driven valve and loading system.
> > I found one for less than £90 but that's a bit steep for me at the
> > moment. At this time this is all looking ahead so things may change
> > but recommendations would be useful especially as I will need to know
> > how large the marker is to gauge the scale of the build to suit the
> > turret issue.
>
> > regards
>
> > Dave
>
> > On Jan 19, 1:12 am, Derek Engelhaupt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > As I have reminded others building modern, low profile tanks, as the 
> > > length
> > > is decreased being built to the 36" rule so does the height.  Keep that in
> > > mind.  It can become a big problem with gravity feed magazines in our tank
> > > turrets.
>
> > > Derek
> > > T065
>
> > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:34 PM, [email protected] <
>
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Neil
>
> > > > Thanks for the info. I was aware of the minimum 36" and it may well be
> > > > that I change my proposed scale. It is early days and I have to also
> > > > see what hardware I will be using in terms of motors/gearing which
> > > > will give me part of the overall sizing to suit. Once I have my Tamiya
> > > > I will do an outline in my CAD package to also check out the turret
> > > > space with reference to fitting a marker and hopper that can depress
> > > > and elevate. This to will guide the scale selection. Building it large
> > > > just seems right for a Challenger =D I will consider the points
> > > > presented carefully though!
>
> > > > I have been all over the R/C Tank Combat site, it's great! Very
> > > > informative and entertaining with plenty of ideas to pick n mix. My
> > > > Dad was in the 10th Royal Hussars and I spent many a happy day during
> > > > the school holidays running around the hangers and playing in and on
> > > > the armoured cars and being taken out for a run round the streets of
> > > > SWindon =D BTW I am 43 =D
>
> > > > Here's a question with vast parameters-
>
> > > > Using a Tri-pac steering control with a 12V system of an 'average'
> > > > model tank what battery duration can I expect. I appreciate that there
> > > > are many variables that will effect the answer but a very
> > > > 'generalised' idea will do if possible just so I 'know'. I do dabble
> > > > in electronics and have a very successful 'voice modulator with sound
> > > > to light' design that has been picked up by over 60 users either in
> > > > kit, ready built of a complete free manual to show how to build one
> > > > including the PCB pattern to etch your own. If your now wondering -
> > > > This is for the Dalek builders to do 'the' voice and drive the dome
> > > > lights in time with the voice. =D
>
> > > > Here's to the Kings Own!
>
> > > > regards
>
> > > > Dave
>
> > > > On Jan 18, 9:06 pm, neroc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > The UK members are always pleased to welcome new builders and
> > > > > battlers,
> > > > > You will also find excellent help and advice is on hand from
> > > > > experienced builders across the globe.
>
> > > > > I dont know if you are aware but you are not required to build in 1/6
> > > > > th scale, a three foot minimum tank is all that is required as long as
> > > > > the tanks dimensions fit to ( rough ) scale .
> > > > > A  54.5 inch long challenger will be a cumbersome project to handle
> > > > > during all stages of  building , maintenance and  transport .
>
> > > > > If you havent already I would advise you to take a good look around
> > > > > the rc tank combat site , take a look at the UK battles ,Battlers and
> > > > > Assets ,
> > > > > the UK team is called the `KOR` ( Kings Own Regiment )
>
> > > > > Wakefeild !  Pete and me are just down the street :0]
>
> > > > > Neil R
>
> > > > > On Jan 18, 2:07 pm, "[email protected]"
>
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Chaps
>
> > > > > > Thanks for the welcome =D I live just outside Wakefield on the south
> > > > > > side. My Tamiya was despatched today so hopefully tomorrow I can 
> > > > > > start
> > > > > > having a look. I use Qcad which is a linux based CAD package which
> > > > > > outputs files as DXF's. I have just used it to draw round and scale 
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > from a side view of a challenger found on the web. Using the 1/6th
> > > > > > scale and the specs from a militaria site it looks like the main 
> > > > > > body
> > > > > > will be-
>
> > > > > > 1381mm (54.5")long
> > > > > > 580mm (23") wide
> > > > > > 431mm (17")tall inc Turret
> > > > > > Gun Barrel from front of mantle 787mm (31")
> > > > > > Main wheels around 120-138mm (4.75-5 3/8")
>
> > > > > > A bit big =D
>
> > > > > > I intend mostly Ply structure. Working suspension, Tri-pact Speed
> > > > > > controller, and a modified paintball blowpipe (as seen on some ones
> > > > > > build) unless I find a dirt cheap semi-auto marker. Motors? Cheap 
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > durable =D Track system- I reckon the ex-tread mill would be easiest
> > > > > > to succeed with. End objective? Kicking Tiger Buttock =D All this 
> > > > > > on a
> > > > > > tight budget.
>
> > > > > > regards
>
> > > > > > Dave
>
> > > > > > On Jan 18, 11:09 am, Peter Arundel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > So, where are you, Dave? If you're close to manchester or Stoke, I
> > > > will be happy to drop in with a tank for you to play with.
>
> > > > > > > Pete.
>
> > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:48:35 -0800
> > > > > > > > Subject: [TANKS] newbie alert!
> > > > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > > > Hi All
>
> > > > > > > > I'm based in the UK and stumbled across tank combat whilst
> > > > researching
> > > > > > > > speed controllers for another project. I have ordered a 1/35 
> > > > > > > > scale
> > > > > > > > Challenger 2 tamiya model from ebay to use to draw up 'proposed
> > > > plans'
> > > > > > > > for a 1/6th scale R/C build. I spent 15 years working for Flair
> > > > > > > > products making radio control plane kits so building should be
> > > > right
> > > > > > > > up my street. I like the look of the Tri-pact speed controller 
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > cheapness and simplicity and I have no idea how long it will 
> > > > > > > > take
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > do. I also have all the major parts for a full size Genesis 
> > > > > > > > Dalek
> > > > > > > > which I hope to get on with this year.
>
> > > > > > > > regards
>
> > > > > > > > Dave
>
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