Thanks for all the info Chaps!

I spy 'inexpensive' markers =D An hours running and firing seems
adequate. I presume that using PWM speed controllers would give a
significant increase, subject to driving style, in duration? I don't
think I can afford the PWM method anyway but out of interest......

With reference to 'tweaking' the scale of portions of the build to
suit hardware needs this was used quite a bit with some of the builds
(R/C Aircraft) to help with the 'moments' and fitting the glow motors.
It's amazing what you can get away with........unless the local 'rivet
counter' happens to be in the area =D

My Tamiya Challenger failed to arrive today and I had my digi
calipers, steel rule and protractor ready =D =(

regards

Dave

On Jan 19, 7:20 pm, neroc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just popping my head up from the sweat and toil of working on phil`s
> Hetzer ;0) (To57 for those who dont know) .
> A general ballpark answer to your battery question Dave , in the
> battles I have been involved in where a 12v tank is used , in this
> case my Marder ( To68 ) .One 18 Amp hour will easly last one hour long
> battle , possibly longer ,much depends on the way you
> battle ,personaly I tend to speed to a safe place and then stay there
> till i see fit to move on. not everyone is the same .
> I use pairs of 7 or 12 Amp hour batteries at 24 v in my Leopard
> ( To51 ) but if I build another Tank it will be designed to hold 18amp
> hour batteries because they can be charged quicker ( High amp chargers
> dammage smaller AH batteries im told ). a rough price rule of thumb is
> £10 per 6 Amp hour at 12v
> Redarding fitting Paintball markers and gravity feed trays into the
> turrets of 3 feet tanks , I just made me Leopard turret a little
> taller than it should be when I encounterd this problem , not such a
> crime and the fella who dishes out the designations is pretty cool
> about such things . this is a battling hobby so if your creation looks
> like the chosen subject vehicle then thats good enough for the powers
> that be, thankfully .
>
> Phil I am at a point of going to an enginering works to have To57`s
> KTS sprockets made . i`ll get in touch .
>
> Neil R
>
> On Jan 18, 10:34 pm, "[email protected]"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Neil
>
> > Thanks for the info. I was aware of the minimum 36" and it may well be
> > that I change my proposed scale. It is early days and I have to also
> > see what hardware I will be using in terms of motors/gearing which
> > will give me part of the overall sizing to suit. Once I have my Tamiya
> > I will do an outline in my CAD package to also check out the turret
> > space with reference to fitting a marker and hopper that can depress
> > and elevate. This to will guide the scale selection. Building it large
> > just seems right for a Challenger =D I will consider the points
> > presented carefully though!
>
> > I have been all over the R/C Tank Combat site, it's great! Very
> > informative and entertaining with plenty of ideas to pick n mix. My
> > Dad was in the 10th Royal Hussars and I spent many a happy day during
> > the school holidays running around the hangers and playing in and on
> > the armoured cars and being taken out for a run round the streets of
> > SWindon =D BTW I am 43 =D
>
> > Here's a question with vast parameters-
>
> > Using a Tri-pac steering control with a 12V system of an 'average'
> > model tank what battery duration can I expect. I appreciate that there
> > are many variables that will effect the answer but a very
> > 'generalised' idea will do if possible just so I 'know'. I do dabble
> > in electronics and have a very successful 'voice modulator with sound
> > to light' design that has been picked up by over 60 users either in
> > kit, ready built of a complete free manual to show how to build one
> > including the PCB pattern to etch your own. If your now wondering -
> > This is for the Dalek builders to do 'the' voice and drive the dome
> > lights in time with the voice. =D
>
> > Here's to the Kings Own!
>
> > regards
>
> > Dave
>
> > On Jan 18, 9:06 pm, neroc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The UK members are always pleased to welcome new builders and
> > > battlers,
> > > You will also find excellent help and advice is on hand from
> > > experienced builders across the globe.
>
> > > I dont know if you are aware but you are not required to build in 1/6
> > > th scale, a three foot minimum tank is all that is required as long as
> > > the tanks dimensions fit to ( rough ) scale .
> > > A  54.5 inch long challenger will be a cumbersome project to handle
> > > during all stages of  building , maintenance and  transport .
>
> > > If you havent already I would advise you to take a good look around
> > > the rc tank combat site , take a look at the UK battles ,Battlers and
> > > Assets ,
> > > the UK team is called the `KOR` ( Kings Own Regiment )
>
> > > Wakefeild !  Pete and me are just down the street :0]
>
> > > Neil R
>
> > > On Jan 18, 2:07 pm, "[email protected]"
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Chaps
>
> > > > Thanks for the welcome =D I live just outside Wakefield on the south
> > > > side. My Tamiya was despatched today so hopefully tomorrow I can start
> > > > having a look. I use Qcad which is a linux based CAD package which
> > > > outputs files as DXF's. I have just used it to draw round and scale up
> > > > from a side view of a challenger found on the web. Using the 1/6th
> > > > scale and the specs from a militaria site it looks like the main body
> > > > will be-
>
> > > > 1381mm (54.5")long
> > > > 580mm (23") wide
> > > > 431mm (17")tall inc Turret
> > > > Gun Barrel from front of mantle 787mm (31")
> > > > Main wheels around 120-138mm (4.75-5 3/8")
>
> > > > A bit big =D
>
> > > > I intend mostly Ply structure. Working suspension, Tri-pact Speed
> > > > controller, and a modified paintball blowpipe (as seen on some ones
> > > > build) unless I find a dirt cheap semi-auto marker. Motors? Cheap but
> > > > durable =D Track system- I reckon the ex-tread mill would be easiest
> > > > to succeed with. End objective? Kicking Tiger Buttock =D All this on a
> > > > tight budget.
>
> > > > regards
>
> > > > Dave
>
> > > > On Jan 18, 11:09 am, Peter Arundel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > So, where are you, Dave? If you're close to manchester or Stoke, I 
> > > > > will be happy to drop in with a tank for you to play with.
>
> > > > > Pete.
>
> > > > > > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:48:35 -0800
> > > > > > Subject: [TANKS] newbie alert!
> > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
>
> > > > > > Hi All
>
> > > > > > I'm based in the UK and stumbled across tank combat whilst 
> > > > > > researching
> > > > > > speed controllers for another project. I have ordered a 1/35 scale
> > > > > > Challenger 2 tamiya model from ebay to use to draw up 'proposed 
> > > > > > plans'
> > > > > > for a 1/6th scale R/C build. I spent 15 years working for Flair
> > > > > > products making radio control plane kits so building should be right
> > > > > > up my street. I like the look of the Tri-pact speed controller for
> > > > > > cheapness and simplicity and I have no idea how long it will take to
> > > > > > do. I also have all the major parts for a full size Genesis Dalek
> > > > > > which I hope to get on with this year.
>
> > > > > > regards
>
> > > > > > Dave
>
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