>> frontal exclusion for all I think that treating armored cars the same way as tanks with regard to frontal hits will help bring new members to the hobby. A tank-steered (as opposed to front wheel steered) armored car is probably the simplest mobile, firing, asset to produce. That said, I don't know how many newbies decided not to build an A/C because the rules were against them. I understand Steve's comment about historical accuracy. One of the fundamental principles of the rules has been to field as wide an asset variety as possible without too much regard for the performance of the actual vehicle. Using common tank and A/C rules will help do that. - Doug
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Engelhaupt" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 7:19:28 PM Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: About time to implement discussed rules update There are inherent challenges with small vehicles less than 36". How do you fit everything you need in such a small chassis? With the 1/6th rule it allows people to try to fit stuff in a smaller tank like the 21st Century Stuart M5 or my original tank destroyer that I planned on building - the ASU-85. There were technical challenges I just couldn't overcome with that tank having to do with the way the drive line was built on the real tank. I couldn't replicate it so that it would be durable enough for combat. I do like the 36" rule as in I wouldn't mind if all vehicles had to be made to that length. You could build anything to any size you wanted as long as it was 36" long. I mean even a 36" long Mule is possible to build. The scale would be weird, but it's not like there is a standard scale now. As it stands now being that both the 36" rule or 1/6th scale is allowed, it does mean my 21st Century Hummers could compete as supply vehicles. Dropping the 1/6th part would disqualify them. Same goes for my M113. It's slightly less than 36" in 1/6th scale. I like 1/6th so that all of my tanks are the same scale and if I decide to add props or detail, the parts are readily available. So even though I would adhere to a 36" rule, I like that both are an option. There are tons of tanks and APCs that I would have liked to build if the 4/40 rule was available across the board. As it is, there were many designs I passed up due to armor thickness or gun caliber short falls. >From playing World of Tanks, I can positively say that forcing a firing delay >circuit on the marker would change the game dynamic drastically. I don't >think it would be bad though. It tends to make you rethink your tactics. If >you don't want to shoot and wait for a better shot, then go for it. If you >want to shoot and take the chance on a hit. Go for it. That's just tactics >and tactics is what this hobby is about. Just be prepared for you opponent to >open fire on you after you take your shot. :) The timing circuit would put >more of an equalizer on the faster tanks since they couldn't just strafe by >and nail your side with 4 shots in one pass. It would lead to longer >engagements, but also more thought as to how you can approach your enemy for >the kill. In closing, my proposals are this: 1. 4/40 for all tanks regardless of scale or size 2. frontal exclusion for all 3. standard rate of fire that limits one ball every 1 sec 4. keep the 36" or 1/6th rule Derek On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Derek Engelhaupt < [email protected] > wrote: Yeah, but most of those were really old Russian tanks. Mostly Iraqi built T-72s and maybe a few Chinese Type-69s. Derek On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Frank Pittelli < [email protected] > wrote: <blockquote> If I'm not mistaken, didn't U.S. tanks already participate in a tank biathlon against Russian-made tanks ... an event called Desert Storm! On 12/18/2013 2:51 PM, Mike Lyons wrote: <blockquote> Perhaps this is the future of RCTC? http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=qL8y8lTjFSQ -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/ group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscribe@ googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/ groups/opt_out . </blockquote> </blockquote> -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
