Thanks to everyone who has sent advice or clarifications. I think that my colleagues and I can avoid this issue much of the time by following the LCPS at 6.27.3 and creating expression-level access points only for translations and dates of Works (although this is perhaps not quite in the spirit of FRBR), but there will be some occasions where we need to create access points for particular issues, e.g. when cataloguing guides or manuals which relate to specific editions of textbooks. I will watch with interest to see whether the rules or examples are tweaked. I think myself that it can be quite useful, at least in MARC records and OPACs, to have consistently different punctuation for additions which differentiate between distinct intellectual/artistic works (which happen to have the same title but may otherwise be unrelated) and for additions which identify expression-level subsets of such works (and thus show a relationship as well as showing a difference). That was, indeed, how I understood the AACR2 rules and examples. I would also be sorry if my colleagues in authority maintenance had even more conversions to cope with. But it is probably rather late to start that kind of discussion. Thanks again, Bernadette ************************** Bernadette O'Reilly Catalogue Support Librarian 01865 2-77134 The Bodleian Libraries Osney One Building Osney Mead, Oxford OX2 0EW **************************
________________________________ From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access on behalf of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Fri 6/1/2012 9:08 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Added elements for expressions It appears that these two examples, Wilde, Oscar, 1854-1900. Works. 2000 Shakespeare, William, 1564-1616. Works. 2003. Yale University Press while formulated in the same way we have been doing it in AACR2, probably do not conform to the punctuation instructions in E.1.2.5: Enclose a word, phrase, date, or other designation used for conflict resolution in parentheses. Separate a word, phrase, date, or other designation used for conflict resolution from another word, phrase, date, or other designation also used for conflict resolution by a space, colon, space. If these instructions are followed, the examples should be rendered as: Wilde, Oscar, 1854-1900. Works (2000) Shakespeare, William, 1564-1616. Works (2003 : Yale University Press) John, probably these two examples need to be corrected with fast-track process. Note however, that this change from AACR2 requires many existing authority records to be changed in order to be coded as RDA. Perhaps this is something the JSC needs to have a look at. I don't think this came up on the list of changes needed to AACR2 records when recoding as RDA. I do see that there are indeed two examples illustrating the prescribed punctuation in 6.28.4.4: Beethoven, Ludwig van, 1770-1827. Ludwig van Beethovens Werke (1862) Authorized access point for the compilation: Beethoven, Ludwig van, 1770-1827. Works (1862) Beethoven, Ludwig van, 1770-1827. Ludwig van Beethovens Werke (1949) Authorized access point for the compilation: Beethoven, Ludwig van, 1770-1827. Works (1949) And also in 6.31.3.2: Catholic Church. Pope (1978-2005 : John Paul II). Vita consecrata. English (Simplified version) Catholic Church. Pope (1978-2005 : John Paul II). Vita consecrata. English (Institute on Religious Life) Authorized access point for the expression: Catholic Church. Pope (1978-2005 : John Paul II). Vita consecrata. English (2004) Catholic Church. Pope. Tutte le encicliche dei sommi pontefici (1940) Authorized access point for the expression: Catholic Church. Pope. Encyclicals. Italian (1940) Catholic Church. Pope. Tutte le encicliche dei sommi pontefici (1959) Authorized access point for the expression: Catholic Church. Pope. Encyclicals. Italian (1959) Catholic Church. Pope. Tutte le encicliche dei sommi pontefici (1964) Authorized access point for the expression: Catholic Church. Pope. Encyclicals. Italian (1964) --Adam Schiff ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax asch...@u.washington.edu http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, JOHN C ATTIG wrote: > See Appendix E.1.1 Presentation of Access Points. There is a section called "Uniform Titles" (presumably because > this is an attempt to reflect the punctuation in AACR2 Chapter 25). > > John Attig > Authority Control Librarian > Penn State University > jx...@psu.edu > > ________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________ > From: "Bernadette Mary O'Reilly" <bernadette.orei...@bodleian.ox.ac.uk> > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 5:29:53 AM > Subject: [RDA-L] Added elements for expressions > > Hallo > > > > In the near future I will need to draft some guidelines for colleagues who will be using RDA with ISBD > and MARC21. Most of them are multi-skilled and do fairly small amounts of cataloguing, so the training > has to be quick and simple. I will have to include guidelines for creating RDA headings in > bibliographic records for entities for which there is no NACO record. (We do not create new NACO > records for minor works or contributors.) > > > > I haven?t been able to find any rules about which additions to Expression records should be in parentheses > and which should follow a full stop. The examples (6.27.3) show most additions, including publisher, > after a full stop but some (translator, text version, choreographer) in parentheses. (I was actually > quite surprised to find that a new choreography was regarded as only an Expression-level distinction.) > Appendix E does not specify punctuation for Other Distinguishing Characteristics of the Expression. I > have glanced through the PCC NACO training slides, but didn?t find anything about this. > > > > Please could someone tell me where I should look for a rule? > > > > Many thanks, > > Bernadette > > ******************* > Bernadette O'Reilly > Catalogue Support Librarian > > 01865 2-77134 > > Bodleian Libraries, > Osney One Building > Osney Mead > Oxford OX2 0EW. > > ******************* > > > > > >
