I am beginning to wonder if RDA is more of a code for catalogers than for
users.

Looking at the example, what is the movie an expression of?  Was there a
previous work?  Can a movie be a work in or itself?  There are Oscars for
original script.

And what about previous composers for movies, Schoenberg, for instance?

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse <babra...@mit.edu>wrote:

> Thanks for the answer. We'll keep trying to figure this out. :)
>
> b
>
> Benjamin Abrahamse
> Cataloging Coordinator
> Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
> MIT Libraries
> 617-253-7137
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 12:36 PM
> To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3
>
> I guess my follow-up question would be: are users really going to get
> that, in a way that would be useful to them?
>
> Considering it flummoxed a room full of catalogers.
>
> Benjamin Abrahamse
> Cataloging Coordinator
> Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries
> 617-253-7137
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 12:27 PM
> To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3
>
> I understand why a composer can only be 'creator' (rather than
> 'contributor') to a musical work.
>
> But I don't understand why a composer can't be a contributor (rather than
> creator) to a 'work' as well as 'expression', when the composer's
> contribution is a fundamental part of the work as a whole, not just a
> particular expression of it.
>
> On 10/9/2012 12:24 PM, JOHN C ATTIG wrote:
> > "Composer" is qualified by "expression" because there is also a
> > relationship designator for "composer" of a musical work.
> >
> > "Composer (Expression)" is used because the music is simply one aspect
> > of the realization of the moving-image work, and the composer is
> > therefore a contributor to the expression of that work.  A composer
> > can only be the creator of a _musical_ work.
> >
> > John Attig
> > Authority Control Librarian
> > Penn State University
> > jx...@psu.edu
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >
> >     *From: *"Benjamin A Abrahamse" <babra...@mit.edu>
> >     *To: *RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> >     *Sent: *Tuesday, October 9, 2012 12:08:40 PM
> >     *Subject: *[RDA-L] Question about example in RDA 18.5.1.3
> >
> >     The second example in RDA 18.5.1.3, "Recording Relationship
> >     Designators" reads as follows:
> >
> >     film producer
> >
> >     film director
> >
> >     actor
> >
> >     composer (expression)
> >
> >     *Relationship designators recorded in conjunction with the
> >     authorized access point representing Clint Eastwood as producer,
> >     director, actor, and composer for***Million dollar baby**
> >
> >     Can someone please explain why composer is qualified by
> >     "expression"?  If he composed the music for the film, wouldn't he be
> >     considered composer of the work, not the expression?
> >
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >
> >     Ben
> >
> >     Benjamin Abrahamse
> >
> >     Cataloging Coordinator
> >
> >     Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
> >
> >     MIT Libraries
> >
> >     617-253-7137
> >
> >
>



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Claremont School of Theology
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